Whose website was banned by the government in 2015 (ancient history, right?). Oh, it’s now back? Well, I guess there’s no problem at all then! :dubious:
Troll troll troll by the racist bigot.
Let us know when you have lapped up some of the new podcasts to parrot
Honestly, it probably wouldn’t matter too much in the long run. All texts, philosophies, ideas can and will be corrupted by those who want power. You could craft your perfect Secular Humanism treatise/bible/whatever and it would get distorted in ways you would never have imagined.
Way to demonstrate what substantive responsiveness is all about. :rolleyes:
That’s a dodge. Where would you prefer to start from, right here, right now?
(and show me the society that switched from secular humanist principles to a theocracy and improved as a result)
So right now as in today and in this world? So I get about 10000 people and they have been brain-wiped and need to function as a society?
If they get access to modern technology and can communicate with the modern world: I’d probably try secular humanist principles.
If they are isolated and essentially in conditions like 10K years ago, then lets say the Torah.
I sense you think I am a religious person, I am most certainly not.
I might be missing something obvious, but what society has made that switch at all?
Why would secular humanism be unsuitable for a bronze age society?
No, I don’t think that at all.
It was more a rhetorical question, I’m not aware of it happening and I don’t think that if it did, the society would be improved (where “improve” means maximise happiness and well-being for all)
? Less so than, say, Albania or Bosnia or Niger?
Hell, atheists in the US have got thousands of death threats on FOX News’ Facebook page:
Some of the American death threats against atheists:
Yeah, I’m not really seeing where the American pot gets to call the Turkish kettle grubby-ass here.
I have a manicure to go to, it is more important than playing chasing the straw men bigot games with you.
Sam made an interesting point at the end of the latest pod that illustrates how he is in no way a right winger, not even on the subject of Islam:
It would not even occur to a right winger to frame it this way.
If only he (and you) could recognize that there’s nothing unusual or special about Islam as far as religions go – it’s just the geopolitical circumstances of those regions. This is a story about economics and geography, not religion. Poor countries, especially those with repressive governments, tend to be more socially conservative. Regardless of religion.
What part of “without many of the same social and economic benefits being spread to these societies“ did you not understand, andy?
Maybe Sam gets it, at least a little bit (but not enough to refrain from lazy broad-brushing, as he has in many different posts/tweets/etc.) – but I’ve seen no indication that you do, yet.
I’m well aware that Catholic-dominated society was as bad or worse a few hundred years ago. But we have to live in 2018. And whatever the reasons, Islam is today the most powerful force for intolerance and oppression, just as the Vatican was back then.
Bullshit. Poverty and oppressive government is, by far, “the most powerful force for intolerance and oppression”, just as it always has been. Individual religions have little to do with it, other than being a valuable tool for those in power to oppress and repress.
You think religion was an incidental aspect of the torture and execution carried out in the Spanish Inquisition? You have been so strongly trained to believe that religion must be inherently respected, it prevents you from seeing what’s right in front of your face. :smack:
Any religion can do that shit. And any religion can do all the nice and compassionate stuff. The common thread is money and the powerful using tools like religion to control the masses and maintain their money and power. I think religion sucks. But there’s nothing special about any of the major ones (Christianity and Islam). They all can be tools for the rich and powerful, or (occasionally) enablers for compassion and righteousness.
Well, it’s not like atheists don’t still receive death threats in modern supposedly liberal non-Muslim societies like the US too. Besides my previously-cited examples, consider the following:
Okay, off for the weekend—see you all Monday.
Have you ever noticed that whackjobs, with a racist/conspiracy/bigoted agenda who treat message boards as their own personal blog and broadcast medium, need to obsessively remind viewers when their next episode will be back on the air?