Why was he discarded- who knows? No world beater but better than we have.;
Question to the SDMB cricket association:
Was posed by the Grade Cricketer podcast but worthy of consideration.
“Has any bowler in a Test produced a spell of of reverse swing since Sandpapergate?”
Australia got the ball swinging in the Old Trafford test, after having an old ball replaced (with Steve Smith running away with it, holding it aloft like the Olympic Torch and a huge smile on his face). Uncertain whether it was actually “reversing” but usually it’s the old ball that reverses is it not?
As a wider point, no idea. Would probably need a forensic look through the CricViz data to find out how much swing was happening at various points during an innings.
Yes, but Marsh was bowling conventional swing.
Marsh didn’t play at Old Trafford did he?
True, seems too many late nights have blurred into one.
But Marsh bending them a bit at The Oval was the only occasion I can recall anybody getting swing in the series.
Probably not of interest to anyone, but the other day by pure chance I stumbled onto a doco on the Sports Channel where Mark Waugh and Adam Gilchrist were remembering what went through their minds during the semi final between RSA and Australia in 1999. Some of the thoughts were mistaken, but interesting and I found I couldn’t remember a number of the players who were in the game (Elsworth?)
Of interest though they remarked that Klusener didn’t play a false shot the whole tournament ( didn’t his form drop away) and that Shane Warne was still dirty on Steve Waugh for being part of the panel that dropped him the previous year in the West Indies. To the extent that the guys still had difficulty speaking. (FWIW I thought the dropping was reasonable).
All I remember about that game is that it was on very late at night in Australia, and my housemates were asleep, so when the Australians got the final run-out to tie the game and go through to the final, I had to jump around the loungeroom like a madman while making as little noise as possible. 
Just resurrecting the thread. Australia are playing Pakistan at the Gabba (I know I got caught in the damn traffic yesterday). Australia are around 1 for 330 in response to Pakistan 240. Even allowing for a flat pitch Pakistan has looked pretty ordinary. Even Warner scored a century and Burns was out for 97. (Why do they include Bancroft in the squad?).
Anyway, I guess AK84 won’t be happy.
Yeah, since the damn no ball rule was changed in the middle of the game.
Did it? I musn’t have seen that- if the rule was not to check over stepping I’m in favour. However, what was the rule change?
England are playing New Zealand as well, and are currently probably ahead after yesterday’s play with NZ on 144/4 - although the press all has England “cementing strong position”, I’m not so sure we’re that far ahead.
As for the no ball wicket referenced above (Cummins to Rizwan), I was always told something had to be grounded behind the line, and for that wicket, there wasn’t anything that I could see - it should have been a no ball. I can’t find a picture now though.
In one case a Pakistani bowler had a wicket taken away because he clearly overstepped by maybe 10 cm. 24 hours earlier an Australian bowler escaped the same fate because it wasn’t entirely clear that he overstepped. It was clear to 90% of people watching, including me. But the umpire was in the 10%.
Has a picture.
The problem with single frames is that a bowler can land and slide forward a little - as long as his heel went down behind the line it wouldn’t be a no ball. I haven’t seen video.
However, even the Australian commentators in that story thought it was a no ball. And from that article:
The commentators were all very surprised that this was not overturned.
Made me look - I was thinking “if Darren Gough is now an umpire, no wonder he’s generous to the bowler on no balls”.
Watling batted all day and New Zealand ground out a 40 run lead on day three. Normally I’d expect a draw. But with these two teams I think we’re in for a final over on day five with all four results in play.
Yes, I did a double take at that.
However, I don’t think one bad call resulted in Pakistan being knocked over for 240 and then Australia getting almost 600.
Interestingly, there is a school of thought that they should not even check for the no ball given all other deliveries are not checked and there are probably many during the day. If the umpire doesn’t call it, don’t check it.
This is not a school of thought I subscribe to. You might as well just get of the rule. The umpires should check (and call) every ball, whether it’s the 3rd umpire or square leg.