Bush and Blair are now in the running for a Nobel Peace Prize. No kidding.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030508/pl_nm/iraq_nobel_dc
Is initiating a military conflict so as to prevent a future military conflict a peaceful endeavor worthy of nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize?
I will leave any ridicule and just say, no, I think not.
Sorry 'bout that. Thanks Retvim.
Ahhh… Revtim
You can’t see the forest for the trees. I don’t really want to argue politics here at SDMB because this is largely a leftist board but that nomination isn’t because they went to war. If it were due solely to that, then the Leaders in Sudan, Russia or Ethiopia would get nobel prizes too.
The guy states why the he wants a nomination and i agree with him.
‘Sometimes it’s necessary to use a small and effective war to prevent a much more dangerous war in the future,’ Jan Simonsen, a right-wing independent in Norway’s parliament, told Reuters.
‘If nobody acted then Saddam Hussein could have produced weapons of mass destruction and, in five or 10 years, could have used them against Israel,’ he said.
It was also because they overthrew one of the worst dictators on the planet and are trying to establish a representative government.
Well, seeing as how Hitler was nominated for the peace prize in 1938, I’d say that pretty much anything can serve to get someone nominated into that elite group. 
“Remove a major threat to peace, get a peace prize.”
What’s the problem?
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The forest is made up of trees, son. If the trees are rotten and dying, then so is the forest. Let’s take another inane expression: The means justify the ends. Well, shit. Ever stopped to notice that the means create the ends. You kill thousands and thousands of people to institute another government, you get thousands and thousands of dead people and a new government. Your whole bet is that the new government will save even more than were killed to implement it. Hope your not betting too much on this one.
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You’re safe arguing with me then. I’m not a leftist. I hate politics altogether.
Or maybe leaders in Sudan, Russia and Ethiopia just get bad press.
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It’s all based on the prevention of some future event as though the scriptures have foretold it, and it is inevitable.
Based on that theory, I should go and kill any kids that I know will grow up to be big and strong and may be able to hurt me. If nobody acts they could learn to box in five or 10 years and beat the crap out of my neighbors.
Translation: This dictator was stepping on American toes and had to be removed for economic reasons so that an American puppet could be inserted under the guise of democracy.
Shit, eh. One more thing that Bush and Hitler have in common.
What’s the problem? Go ask one of the families in Baghdad who had their neigborhood nailed with a ‘smart’ bomb which was the more major threat: The US invasion, or Saddam.
Doublethink central: War = Peace = War = Peace Prize.
When a major threat to peace is removed by peaceful means, then a peace prize is in order.
Clinton must feel left out over Kosovo.
Magiver:
I’m not sure if you’re having a dig based upon the assumption that I’m a democrat, or if you just think that Clinton should be thrown in with those of his ilk.
Well, for the record I think Clinton is no better.
Sorry, shouldn’t have hit the quote button. My apologies. No dig at you. Clinton would love a peace prize (or was that piece prize;) ). It will probably kill him if Dubya gets one and he doesn’t.
If Dubya scores off this nomination, it’ll surely piss Jimmy Carter off as well. He had to wait 20 years after his term in office to get his.
If they can nominate a terrorist like Arafat I dont’ see why they couldn’t nominate anyone.
Marc
I think it’s a sick joke, to be honest. Bush and Blair no more deserve a Nobel Peace Prize than Hitler did, or Arafat. It makes a mockery of what the prize should really stand for.
Just to point it out - Arafat wasn’t nominated for the peace prize, he was awarded it. More on it is in the original thread.
Oh, is this the new euphemism for “my sound-bite talking points get shredded to bits by the smarter folks here”?
Come on guys. The peace prize is often a joke (as others here have already pointed out). But let’s just speculate for a minute. In the last 20 yrs or so, Iraq started 2 wars against its neighbors. If, in the next 20 yrs there are no more Iraq instigated wars, then perhaps something will have been accomplished. Myself, I’d like to wait and see what happens in Israel before I go awarding any prizes.
Also, remember that we just had Cuba join the Human Rights Commishion of the UN.
If anyone is interested, I’ll nominate them for the Nobel Peace Prize.