Inviting ALL evolutionists to show proof that mammals evolve

As I stated in the last few posts of the flat Earth thread, mammals do not evolve. If there are ANY posters that believe they do please show us, now, right here, in front of God and everyone. All comers welcome, but beware Phaedrus is invincible! :wink:


For what a man had rather were true he more readily believes.

Invincible to reason or facts, indeed.

You’ve been given ample opportunity to check out the facts for yourself and have refused to do so or to acknowledge when others present you with such facts and evidence.

Back to Coventry with you. This will be my last response to you in this thread.

To all newbies who are thinking, “Gosh, how can they just ignore this guy like that? He’s simply asking a reasonable question.” – I invite you to peruse through his ramblings in http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000488.html

But I warn you, this message board is not responsible for your loss of time.

Not to mention that, unless this is another person using the Phaedrus name and password, Phaedrus is now revealed to be the liar we all suspected he was. Guess aiding in his buddy’s legal defense wasn’t as important as it was cracked up to be. And, having been outed as KGB, he must have figured he may as well use his old name.

Begone, peasant.


“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather

Moderator,

Point of Order, If KGB was removed for violation of board rules, shouldn’t Phaedrus be removed as well?

Phaedrus, why don’t you just [Deleted by David B]? And while you’re at it, go [Deleted by David B] with a limp rope and [Deleted by David B] a [Deleted by David B] camel. I have absolute proof that you were seen [Deleted by David B] a chimp’s [Deleted by David B] while [Deleted by David B] a [Deleted by David B]. I will be posting it shortly, you [Deleted by David B] idiotic, [Deleted by David B], arrogant, [Deleted by David B], emu-[Deleted by David B], racist, [Deleted by David B]-sniffing ball of [Deleted by David B]!

Bite me, [Deleted by David B].

Love and kisses,
Gaudere

PS-[Deleted by David B] [Deleted by David B] [Deleted by David B]!
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Well, I’ve been looking at my cat for years, and he hasn’t evolved. :slight_smile:


I looked in the mirror today/My eyes just didn’t seem so bright
I’ve lost a few more hairs/I think I’m going bald - Rush

I cannot argue with someone who confuses Cryptotis parva (the American Least Shrew) which has one sub-species with Sorex minutissimus (the Eurasian Least Shrew) which has nine sub-species. If he cannot even name the correct genus of his example, what kind of weight can we give his interpretations?

Do you know that we have almost no fossil record of medusae, siphonophores and ctenophores? And no one has observed a speciation event in the wild, nor even induced a variation in the laboratory. Therefore, I conclude that jellyfish do not evolve.

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Mr. Thin Skin asked:

If we knew for certain that Phaedrus = KGB, the answer would be yes. However, while I think we are all pretty certain about it, I cannot, as Moderator, make such a definite statement. In previous cases where this happened (a user was banned, came back on, got banned again, etc.), the user in question made it obvious who he was. If we were to find definite evidence that Phaedrus = KGB, then, yes, it is likely that Phaedrus would be banned. But on an amusing note, KGB was banned in part because he came on as a newbie and immediately started flaming and doing little else. It was this combination that got him so quickly booted.


David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator

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Have you ever seen a horse?

http://www.enselink.com/ev56.jpg

[Phaedrus Hat: ON]

David, which post was going to be your last?

pldennison: I’ll be in your area for the hols, aren’t you going to invite me over? :wink: I am working on their case but as you know if you are in law sometimes can get slow around the holidays (at least in PA they do). Their case is VERY important! And going well I might add, thanks for wondering.

Mr Thin Skin: Are you KGB or the CIA?

Gaudere: Funny, very funny indeed. If your post was really deleted by David you would have at least gotten a warning. I noticed you didn’t. Nice try. Don Pardo, please show Ms. Gaudere the consolation prize.

AWB: Look harder and don’t give up, the evilutionists have been looking for 130 years and STILL have no proof!

DrF: Cryptotis has nine subspecies and they are in order:

Cryptotis parva parva

Cryptotis parva harlani

Cryptotis parva berlandieri

Cryptotis parva floridana

Cryptotis parva orophila

Cryptotis parva soricina

Cryptotis parva tropicalis

Cryptotis parva publensis

Cryptotis parva elasson

I also found it interesting that the domain of Cryptotis parva extends from near the panama canel all the way up into Canada. Talk about geographic pressure to evolve!! Whew!!!

An honest note here: Cryptotis parva floridana was thought to evlove into a separate species but I can’t find that part in the monograph right now. I know the work was stopped though before it became proof. I’ll find it later and post it. and Dr. you are referring to the name that was originally given to the Genus by Say in 1823. Its’ proper name now is Cryptotis. It was found approx. 2 mi. E Ft. Calhoun on the West bank of the Missouri River.

David B: There is proof that KGB and I are different people and DrFidelius has it. I sent an e-mail to his/her address which is susyqlight@hotmail.com, but never got a response. My address is different and I don’t want it given out on the board otherwise I would have included it in my profile. DrFidelius knows my e-mail address and has admitted in the flat thread that he received an e-mail from me. Ask him privately what it is and you will know that the e-mails are different. Also, evidently KGB knows how to use the quoting thing so he/she didn’t have to work as hard as I sometimes do. Maybe that’s not hard proof to you but I don’t know how to use the dumb thingy and wish I did! I would LOVE to emphasize some of MY points that way.

Boy I guess I’ll have to wait a long time for that proof I want, huh?

::::::::Yawn::::::: Oh well I have the hols to wait, might as well.


Phaedrus, SDMB Great Poster

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Hardcore: I have seen plenty of them but I’m afraid the fossil record only gives us a postulation that those Eohippus evolved. I am looking for hard proof like Drosophilus, E. coli, Larus agentatus, the Hedylyptra butterfly from Hawaii. I wnat hard proof from living MAMMALS, you know, the kind of proof Darwin had with his finches of great renown.

Nice try though, and thanks for the pretty picture! :wink:

Yours,

Phaedrus


For what a man had rather were true he more readily believes.

Uh, that would be ** any ** evolutionist, since all evolutionists are not required for the exercise. Asking for proof is not really conducive to rational argument, if that is what you are seeking. Ask rather for evidence, as David B did in his thread, which sank out of sight without even a mention from you.

The evidence abounds, by the way, and has already begun arriving on the thread. Aurochs evolved into cows, in all likelihood, and the horse has certainly evolved from its ancestor stock, recently found to still exist on the Tibetan plateau. Wolves, and dogs, the coyote, and the dingo are all pretty good examples of the incremental steps which produce evolution.

I would like to mention before hand, Phaedrus, you have exhausted any possible tolerance for avoiding cogent, complete, and reasonable concise replies to any serious responses to your question. If you don’t answer coherently and completely with very unambiguous statements, you reveal that you have no intention of rational discourse, but only a desire to be in the center of an argument. Just thought I should make that clear at the outset.

In the even that you actually desire to have a discussion, you will no doubt have ample evidence shortly. Whether such evidence constitutes proof would require a fairly reasonable level of agreement on what you and the rest of the world mean by evolution, and proof. Somehow I think that is going to be an elusive search.

<P ALIGN=“CENTER”>Tris</P>

Don’t let it end like this. Tell them I said something.
–** Pancho Villa **- last words

David did give me a warning, but since we’re the same person all he had to do was think “Gaudere, behave yourself and stop posting such lies about Phaedrus. Everyone knows he doesn’t [Deleted by David B] chimps, he [Deleted by David B] [Deleted by David B] spider monekys.”

Yeah, it’s really hard to get a hotmail addy. Or borrow one from someone else. That is hardly proof. Can you tell me, on your sacred honor, swearing by the God you love, that the person who posted as Phaedrus never posted as KGB, without any “my cells/mental state/heart changed before I posted as KGB, so I was a different person” dodging or any other sort of weaseling?

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Yes Gaudere I would swear by all that is HOLY that I am not KGB or any other poster here. Seriously. I have no idea who he was or is and frankly Madam I don’t really give a [Deleted by David B]! If KGB were me he wouldn’t have acted THAT way! I have no other e-mail accounts other than my own. I don’t know what an addy is. Maybe he was klanman or Contestant #3 trying to get in on the act. Other than that I have no idea who he was.

Gaudere said:

And if he does, then what? If he’s a liar, why wouldn’t he continue to lie?

I find it amusing that he can’t understand that I will not respond to him, but that doesn’t mean I will stop posting to anybody. But then, the ability to understand even simple things has never been one of his strong points.

Tris: I will answer as clearly as I know how to all responses. That doesn’t mean they will be as clear as some would like or to the thick headed they would be unclear in any event.

I won’t here any evidence here Tris that isn’t a postulation. Birds and Retiles and many types of animals can speciate. But they only do that ONCE! After that they don’t evolve either.

All the evidence you brought up involves the same postulation as hardcore’s did. It involves the fallacy of composition in logic and proves nothing!

A question, Tris: I know that Canis lupus hasn’t evolved because its gene pool can STILL intermingle with a Chihuahua but what about the coyote and the dingo? Can they interbreed with the Wild Dog (Wolf) and domestic dogs? I haven’t researched it so I don’t know.

Yours,

Phaedrus


For what a man had rather were true he more readily believes.

Let’s see . . . on Dec. 9, 1999, on Page 17 of the “Flat Earth” thread, Phaedrus said, “If I do return, I will not use this name. I will use my own. This is too confusing for
others, too hard for me.”

So, we have a couple choices:

  1. He was lying then; or
  2. He really did come back under his own initials, KGB, with a fake address and is lying now.

It’s possible, but doubtful (seeing as he comes from a long line of geniuses), that he simply forgot he said it, or figured we’d forget he said it.


“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather

Senile dementia again! Darn it all!

Can yous guys use a bigger font? I lost my specs agin! Hick hick hick. :wink:

Gee, Phil, think I might have just changed my mind about posting in my own name? Wow, that would be something wouldn’t it? Ever change your mind? Or are you too hardheaded to?

Next time please bring hard proof or evidence in regards to evolution and mammals, I tired easily of your “I know who KGB REALLY is” nonsense.

Sure hope the new one works out better for you, Phaedy.


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