Of this name please; Caoimhe Sile Nic Dhaibheid.
Looks lovely, can’t pronounce it.
I’m not Irish, but my wife is and I’ve picked up a fair bit of the language. Assuming the missing fadha on the I in Sile, it is pronounced KEE-va SHEE-la Nick DAH-vid. At least in parts of Co. Kerry. I’ve also heard KWEE-va.
Hmmm. I’m pretty sure it’s not “Throatwobbler Mangrove.”
And for good measure, an Anglicized version might be Keeva Sheila David. “Nic” means “daughter of” and is commonly dropped.
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I’m not Irish, but my wife is and I’ve picked up a fair bit of the language. Assuming the missing fadha on the I in Sile, it is pronounced KEE-va SHEE-la Nick DAH-vid. At least in parts of Co. Kerry. I’ve also heard KWEE-va.
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Thanks, I’d grasped at dah-bid for the pronunciation of the surname, so not that far off.
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And for good measure, an Anglicized version might be Keeva Sheila David. “Nic” means “daughter of” and is commonly dropped.
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How in the name of the Nine Turning Wheels of Og do they get “Keeva” out of “Caoimhe”? :eek:
I do not understand Irish orthography.
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How in the name of the Nine Turning Wheels of Og do they get “Keeva” out of “Caoimhe”? :eek:
I do not understand Irish orthography.
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“mh” and “bh” are usually pronounced as a “v” sound, as in Niamh and Siobhan. And for any given random collection of vowels, plump for “e” or “a” and you probably won’t be too far out 
Caoimhe Sile Nic Dhaibheid-
Caoimhe has several pronunciations Keeva, Queeva, Queeve and a few others I think
Sile = Sheela
Nic = Nee
Dhaibheid = Davidge
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Caoimhe Sile Nic Dhaibheid-
Caoimhe has several pronunciations Keeva, Queeva, Queeve and a few others I think
Sile = Sheela
Nic = Nee
Dhaibheid = Davidge
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I knew I should have double-checked with my wife about “Nic”. I’ve never seen that and made an incorrect assumption. Everyone I know with that sort of surname has Ní instead of Nic.
I know a couple of Dhaibheids and they say “DAHvid”. This is in Co. Kerry. I know pronunciations vary around the country.
That’d be fine too, some would put more emphasis on the last syllable but yeah it’s grand.
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How in the name of the Nine Turning Wheels of Og do they get “Keeva” out of “Caoimhe”?
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ca = /k/ - the “a” is there only to indicate that it is velarized (“broad”) and not palatalized (“slender”)
oi = /wi/ - a diphthong
mh = /v/ - the lenited “m”
a = /a/
Not so crazy, now, huh?
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ca = /k/ - the “a” is there only to indicate that it is velarized (“broad”) and not palatalized (“slender”)
oi = /wi/ - a diphthong
mh = /v/ - the lenited “m”
a = /a/
Not so crazy, now, huh?
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Y’know, that actually makes sense. A is just a marker to prevent a sound schange, like U preventing the G from going soft in English “brogue”.
:: goes to look up ‘palatilized’, ‘velarized’, and ‘lenited’.
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Y’know, that actually makes sense. A is just a marker to prevent a sound schange, like U preventing the G from going soft in English “brogue”.
:: goes to look up ‘palatilized’, ‘velarized’, and ‘lenited’.
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“Brogue”, of course, is the Irish word bróg, meaning “shoe”
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Y’know, that actually makes sense. A is just a marker to prevent a sound schange, like U preventing the G from going soft in English “brogue”.
:: goes to look up ‘palatilized’, ‘velarized’, and ‘lenited’.
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Oh, and of course, it’s “imhe” instead of, say, “umha” to indicate that it’s the palatalized (slender) lenited m (which is like /v/) and not the velarized (broad) lenited m (which is like /w/).