excuse me… what does Iron Man need with a body gaurd?
I mean, could you imagine interviewing for that role - 'So, are you willing to get between the super bad guy and slow him down for 10-15 seconds while I don my suitcase suit? I realize that you may perish doing this, and for that I’m truly sorry.
BTW, we’re hiring 10 of you each day - if you live to tomorrow, you get to be last on the rotation for the next x days.
Not Iron Man’s bodyguard. Stark’s bodyguard. And I think that was Happy Hogan driving the car.
Well, that just makes it stupid from the other direction. If your enemy is pinned to the wall, SHOOT HIM IN THE FACE! Don’t kick away the thing doing the pinning, freeing his super elctro-tenticle arms.
Well, we can give Stark the benefit of the doubt and say that he didn’t want to kill someone who hadn’t demonstrated that he was going to kill others. Good guys capture rather than kill, as a rule.
Yawn. A fight scene. How original.
The worst thing about the original Iron Man were the Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots. Fight scenes are inherently dull and uninteresting (good guy loses, unless its the final fight, where he wins).
Superhero films are only good when the story and characterization are interesting. There is no characterization in fight scenes (at best, there are wisecracks). The Dark Knight was a great film because they kept the fight scenes to a minimum. Once characters start punching each other, the film turns into variations on a tired old theme.
Going by the trailers I’ve seen (which are approaching viewing frequency of near pornographic proportions), I’m thinking that Mr. Whiplash-y guy WANTS to face Tony in Iron Man armor (he talks to the rich guy later who is ‘very impressed’ and wants to give his mega-villain operation corporate backing). I’m not sure if he knew ahead of time that Tony would be packing a compact Iron Man, or if he made his decision once he saw the suitcase, but waiting around while Tony gears up doesn’t strike me as that odd. He’s trying to prove to the world that Tony is an overrated hack and his own genius is the real deal. Killing normal Tony Stark accomplishes very little in that sense. It’s like an up-and coming boxer taking on a middle-aged Ali. More than killing Stark, he wants recognition as the baddest dog in the pound.
I’m okay with that since Stark isn’t a highly skilled combatant. But maybe he was worried that Whiplash’s rig would explode, destroying the car. I can see getting them out of harm’s way as his first thought.
There can, in fact, be great characterization in fight scenes. I give you The Princess Bride. You learn a lot about the men in their moments of conflict.
Iron Man, not so much, no.
WHile I agree with what you’re saying, the inteview would be mostly the same - and one commercial has Stark saying “I and Iron Man are one and the same” (or words to that affect).
Still wouldn’t apply for that job.
Right. You can even see when Tony does start getting a couple shots off that he is aiming for the whips themselves, not Whiplash’s torso. He wants to disable his weapons/suit and find out who the Hell he is, and why he wants him dead.
Me, either. I don’t care how good the retirement plan is. Hired hands of Superheroes have very short lifespans.
Iron Man was one of my absolute favorite super-heroes and the first movie was pretty dang good. This one looks even better.
I won’t see this in the theater, but when it comes to Blu-Ray I know my best friend will have it and invite us to see it.
So somebody tell me who and what Whiplash is.
This is my biggest concern about the sequel: the first movie was kinda sorta about Big Business and politics and war and morality and stuff, but the sequel is just gonna be some Evil Genius with Big Dangerous Toys attacking Tony. And big, noisy, boring fight scenes ensue.
Whiplash, courtesy of Marvel Universe Wiki. Who knows what the movie is going to do with the character? But I expect further development of Stark’s incipient alcoholism, and some more foundations stones set for The Avengers.
What? Avatar is set in the Marvel universe?
The Whiplash in the movie is a combination of the comic Whiplash AND the Crimson Dynamo (in that he’s Russian/Eastern Eurpoean.)
I don’t know how far into the alcoholism they’ll get…I thought I heard Jon Favrou say he wasn’t that interested in the “demon in a bottle” storyline, because it wouldn’t translate well to the big screen. Trying to mesh that in and around the other stuff in just one or two movies wouldn’t work…that’s the kind of thing best left ot a more serialized medium, like comics books (or a TV show…in case any TV producer is reading this…)
But I think there will still be a lot of that corporate/big business thing in this one. The Whiplash fight I linked to is fairly early on in the movie, i think. In other trailers, we see Justin Hammer (a rival to Tony Stark in almost every way. He’s also handsome, a genius, owns a large tech company, etc…) is meeting with Whiplash, and it shows them working together to make robots. The Black Widow (played by Scarlett Johanson, yum!) is also in this, and we have scenes of her beating up guards, possibly to botain company secrets.
Actually, she’s infiltrating a telecommunications company in order to obtain my phone number.
I won’t miss the “demon in a bottle” arc any, if that’s the way they go. It made Stark human, but it is a bit much to cram into a 2 hour movie.
He had no objection to killing lots of guys in the first movie. Why doesn’t he put one of those pencil-sized tank-killing rockets up Rourke’s ass?
The guys he killed in the first movie were actively trying to kill him, innocent civilians, and American military people.
New movie means new weaponry.
The suitcase armor is too compact to hold any missiles.