Anyway … if the bolt is any good , it won’t get damaged by this issue, unless its like torqued up to some huge degree ?
Most 19 mm bolts will be left at some low torque.
If you need to put a lot of torque on it, you might be moving to a larger breaker bar system… eg the arm you use for the tyre of a car …where you get a 2nd opinion on the 19mm
Yes 19mm and 3/4 are pretty much interchangeable.
You say they are loose and 11/16 doesn’t fit. Have you tried 18mm? It’s a tad larger than 11/16.
To answer you other question 5/16 and 8mm, 1/2 and 13mm, 7/8 and 22mm, 1" and 25mm are all interchangeable.
.05mmm is less than two thousandths of an inch - I imagine the tolerances in the manufacture of consumer grade socket sets is on a similar order of magnitude.
This is correct, and you can leave out the “pretty much.” The two sizes are so close that there’s no practical difference. Many American makes use 18mm bolt heads pretty extensively. I’m not sure what “a little loose” means here – all sockets have to have a tad of looseness or they wouldn’t fit on without being hammered. If an 18mm fits, it should be used; if it doesn’t, then it’s got to be 19mm-3/4".
I’ll disagree on the 1/2"=13mm – 1/2" is more like 12.5mm. I’d add 15/16" and 24mm to the list.
Sorta close is 11/16" to 17mm and 7/16" to 11mm. Those inch sizes are a bit bigger than the metric ones, so the fractional wrench can usually be used on the metric bolt heads, but not vice versa – the metrics won’t fit onto the fractional bolt heads.
Usually you can distinguish SAE bolt heads from metric ones by the markings. Typically SAE have lines, metric have numbers. These relate to the strength of the steel.
He may have been referring to the “sorta close” ones I mentioned in post #7. You’re right that there’s no concern whatsoever when it comes to 19mm-3/4".
You got me curious, so I wrote a little Python script to check all sizes in millimeters from 1 to 26 against multiples of thirty-seconds of an inch. All of the following are within 1% of being the same size:
4 mm approximates 5/32 in.
8 mm approximates 5/16 in.
12 mm approximates 15/32 in.
15 mm approximates 19/32 in.
16 mm approximates 5/8 in.
19 mm approximates 3/4 in.
20 mm approximates 25/32 in.
23 mm approximates 29/32 in.
24 mm approximates 15/16 in.
Of those, only 23 mm. and 29/32 in. (differing by 0.08%) are a closer match than 19 mm and 3/4 in. (which differ by 0.26%)
Well 1% on a larger fastening is not likely to be as critical as on a smaller one, despite it being the same ratio.
Materials deform ever so slightly when using torqueing tools, and on small fastenings, that multiples the difference.
I’ve seen spoke keys where the difference of 0.127 to 0.130 to 0.136 is of real significance (3.23mm,3.3mm,3.45) and you will get small variations of these sizes due to different manufacturers of just 0.05mm which is enough to cause a problem, especially when spokes have either cold seized or oxidised in place. Spoke nipples do tend to deform a bit when torqued, so a small variance in the key can be significant.
I finally bought a metric wrench set a couple years ago. Still trying trying to get a feel for the sizes. This was the first time I realized 19mm and 3/4 were the same.
I may eventually have to buy a 18mm. my 10 piece metric wrench set didn’t include that one.
To the OP - I guess what I’m most (impressed? confused? in awe of?) with is the patience you apparently have for this project.
So:
Working on some project.
Have a bolt you’re not sure of the size of.
Try a couple different size wrenches.
Some are really close but maybe not quite perfect.
Not sure if they’re a good fit.
Get on your computer, post to the SDMB.
Have no idea how long it’s going to take to get an answer.
Presumably wait for an answer.
Go back to your project hours or days later and unscrew the bolt.
You’re certainly eager to do things exactly right, I suppose that’s impressive in its way.
Personally, I can’t see myself doing that - try a couple wrenches, whichever one fits best, crank away - done in a few seconds.
Bolding mine. NO ONE? VW does for some of the steering box lock nuts, Type III as well as some of the suspension attaching bolt & nuts. Porsche does as well. As do some of the motorcycles that I have owned in the past. I will agree that 19mm is not used frequently, but never? NO. (Never say never).
If you want to try other wrench interchangeability, try SAE +/or metric to British Standard or Whitworth wrenches. The last are English/British wrenches. They were discontinued in the late 1970s.
I am always on the lookout for these wrenches and tap and die sets as well. There were British standard fine thread, cycle thread and pipe thread. Oh there was another BS screw thread as well.