http://www.1010wins.com/pages/11211.php
Or comical third option.
“No one could have predicted. . .” What a fucking disaster of a President he is.
Moody’s Mood! Holy shit! Oh yes. Please, make-over come and fix his distracting teeth!
See! I am insane with rage!
Wrong thread.
I think he is perhaps malignantly stupid (malevolently?). Or stupidly malicous.
Or just completely in his own little world, out of touch with the vast majority of Americans and the rest of the world.
Since this WH is proud of it’s tightly knit lil clusterfuck, most likely reality checks don’t come his way much, if at all.
A little of both. He would probably be smart enough to be President if he was willing to work harder, but he’s never had to work for anything his entire life so he probably doesn’t know how. He covers his inadequacies with bluster and his family has enough money and clout that no one has ever called him on it. He was probably salvagable as a human being back in his 20’s if he’d been put in a position where he’d had to fend for himself, but instead he was allowed to live the playboy lifestyle until he was 40 and by then the patterns of laziness and fecklessness had set. He’s a small, mean thing, scared of being found out for the fraud he feels like in his heart. That’s why he can never, ever admit that he was wrong, even if it means that the United States will be harmed as a result or brave men will die for no reason. History will judge him harshly, both as a man and a leader, for, in truth, he is neither.
I like the way he sings. He’s cross-eyed and I don’t think the make-over will help that. Plus, he skeeves me and I don’t know why.
Well, I’m in the right thread at least. All right, here’s my take on George W. I don’t think he’s either stupid or malignant. I actually feel like he’s a pretty ordinary person. But he has a fatal flaw: a complete lack of intellectual curiosity. He believes what he believes, and is not in the habit of doubting himself or whatever received ideas he’s taken on over the years. This kind of intellectual sclerosis is a terrible trait in a president, if you ask me. I know – and undoubtedly you know – plenty of non-presidential people like this. They’re typically people in sales positions who drive SUVs and like to watch golf on television. They’re okay people to be around, though it’s not like you’re going to discuss the 19th-century French novel with them. Or even the Kurdish problem.
It’s interesting how much of a big deal is being made of this. It’s all over the news.
What exactly did the guy on the tape say:
I don’t think anyone can predict with any confidence whether the levies will be topped or not.
That’s a paraphrase from what I heard on the news just now. How is that a prediction that the levies would break?
You should be more careful with quotes. What he said was:
“I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees,”
How is that inconsistent with what the guy said on the tape?
What Mayfield said to the President beforehand: "“I don’t think any model can tell you with any confidence right now whether the levees will be topped or not but that is obviously a very, very grave concern.”
John, his grave concern was about the levees breaking, not about their not breaking. Mayfield anticipated the breach of the levees.
Any denial is sinking as low as the levees did.
I think George Bush would have been a good used car salesman. I can easily picture him wearing white pants, white shoes, a short sleeved shirt and sunglasses; standing in the used car lot, matching quarters with the other salesmen. I think that would have pure heaven for him and he probably would have done well at it.
Hey, I’m not really defending Bush here. I think we all know that he and FEMA fucked up in Katrina. But what is the point of parsing these soundbytes?
What Bush said is technically correct, so what’s the big fucking deal. Did someone anticipate (ie, know) that the levees would be topped? Who knows. The point is, they should have been prepared for it. The levees were only built to withstand a Cat 3 hurricane. Katrina, while technically a Cat 3 when it hit NOLA, was a Cat 5 hurricane. 5 > 3. Do the math. Everyone should have expected that the levees might fail, even if no one predicted that they would.
Was it a grave and gathering concern? Cuz I don’t think he’s technically responsible unless the word “gathering” was in there somewhere.
Well, lessez le bon temps roulle, or however you spell it. Let the Bush bashing begin!! But you know what I find worrisome in this whole New Orleans fiasco? We’re still only rebuilding the levees back to where they were. And that’s if we’re really lucky and we finish on time for the next big hurricane. You’d have to be nuts to live in New Orleans, and you’d have to have a death wish to live in the parts that are below sea level.
We have our collective heads up our assess about the livability of that city. I’m sorry, but this is just like the nuts out here in CA who lose their houses in mudlsides and then build another one on the same hill. If you know anything about the ecology of the Mississippi delta in the area of New Orleans, you’d get your ass out of there and find some place to live that isn’t going to be underwater within the next few decades.
The joke last year was that even a clay doll was smarter than the president:
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2005/09/mr_bill_for_pre.html
Mr. Bill for president!
A bit of a smoking gun eh? Nobody forsaw the levees, huh?
The most amazing thing about the clip is that Brownie actually looked like knew what he was talking about. I still think he’s a putz of major proportions, but it certainly has introduced into my mind that possibly he is just the scape goat.
“Drowning New Orleans” Scientific American, Oct. 2001
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00060286-CB58-1315-8B5883414B7F0000
“They Saw It Coming” NYT, Sept. 2 2005, Mark Fischetti, Author of the above SA article
“By the late 1990’s, scientists at Louisiana State University and the University of New Orleans had perfected computer models showing exactly how a sea surge would overwhelm the levee system”
Granted, if one starts every statement with some variant of “I think,” then everything one says would technically be correct. But yes, someone certainly did anticipate the breach of the levees. Many someones, in fact, who published many reports detailing what would happen.
And of course we know now that the levees did not overflow. The water punched thru (or whatever the technical term is) below the top.
Did they expect the Spanish Inquisition?
Bush was not dealing with overflow:
“I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.”
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/breach
Webster: