I’d be curious to know the population densities vs. the crime. Are you talking numbers or percentages?
And yeah, those of us in the south (Florida here) do not consider Hawaii part of the south.
True, but if one looks at total violent crime rates(violent crimes per 1,000 residents) for 2015, southern cities make up none of the worst 5, three of the top 10 and 6 of the top 20
Violent crimes were defined as murder, armed robbery, aggravated assault and rape. The definition of “South” is often fluid as well. For this excercise, I defined “southern cities” as those in the coastal states from Texas to Virginia, plus Tennessee, Kentucky and Arkansas (12 states). Using 2014 counts, those States make up 33% of the US population (106MM of 219MM).
So the numbers show that 30% of violent crimes are committed in states comprising 33% of the population. Not so shocking.
Neither are New Mexico and Nevada.
NYC is one of the lowest crime rate cities in the country.
Buffalo is way worse for many measures.
I think there is a level of violence in their culture, that is absent from the northerners. Also your stats don’t show where these folks are culturally. A lot of folks here are 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th generation removed from the south but still talk about going back “down home”. These are the folks with the guns, the bibles, and they will use them on you!!
IMHO, one thing that people overlook is that Detroit was a boomtown for decades. The boom cooled off, then died. I lived, worked in Detroit for years, still go there occasionally for dinner, a ball game or whatever. In 1978, I worked in a Chrysler plant on the east side. 6000 other folks worked there as well. The local neighborhood had a couple of bars, several restuarants, stores, a bakery with great strudel, and a lot of activity. In 1979 Chrysler closed the plant, and in 1980, I happened to drive thru area. It looked like a bomb hit the place. Nothing was open, and I didn’t see anyone at all in the middle of the morning. No businesses open at all, place was covered in trash, that plant closed, the neighborhood died right then.
Maybe Anaamika still thinks she’s in the 1970s.
If you look at the folks whacking each other, they are overwhelming southern in heritage. They might have been born in Michigan, but they were raised as if they were in the south.
This with it maybe being a little more common in the cities where people are packed closer together.
These are by rate (per 100k, I assume) and not totals?
The simple fact is that some black groups ‘whack’ each other much more often than other groups do and I don’t mean that as a racist statement because it only takes a relatively few bad apples to skew the numbers badly. It is just a statistical reality. We have had polls on this board that asked how many murder victims and murderers do you know personally and people always wonder why my numbers are so high. I almost lost count at about a metric shit-ton for me (15 off the top of my head but some of them were white) because I grew up in rural Louisiana with a roughly 50-50 proportion of white and black.
I never felt in danger myself except part of the time when I was in college in New Orleans. It was truly dangerous in the early 1990’s and many unsuspecting tourists were hurt or killed and I probably didn’t miss it by much myself a few times. The overall murder rate is still bad in national terms but it is better than it was 20 years ago. The touristy parts of New Orleans are very well policed but you can still end up in some serious trouble if you stumble drunk into the wrong part of the French Quarter let alone some of the really poor neighborhoods.
If you want to know why Louisiana has such a high murder rate, it is because most of its cities have gone majority minority and there are ongoing turf wars among really poor groups. People that aren’t personally involved with gangs or organized crime aren’t at risk much but the overall body count among people involved in those activities is very high like Chicago except distributed throughout an entire state.