Is it just me, or is everyone approaching zombie invasion completely wrong?

I have that site bookmarked, but I refuse to go to it, as I know I will waste way too much time on there.

Anywho, getting out of the city is the best idea. You stay in your home, no matter how well stocked or barricaded, sooner or later either someone/thing will break in or you’ll run out of food. And leaving by car is a stupid idea. Traffic will be immediately horrid. Walking would be your best bet, although you’ll want to stay away from the roads, as there will be zombies still trapped in their car.

A lot of these points are brought up in the fantastic novel World War Z. it mentions that most people who tried to “outlast the zombies” in a fortified place failed, and the key to winning the war was, as Lust4Life said, acting against the zombies, going out and killing them en masse, rather than just sitting around waiting for them to come to us and hope for the best.

It’s a really good book with a nice format (in the style of interviews with several survivors of the war.)

I had this idea of setting up camp on top of a water tower, and shooting all the zombies that came by, until the local area was denuded of zombies and there was a huge mound of dead zombies piled around the tower.

Would horses be practical? Don’t need to stop for fuel.

Horses gotta eat too, you know.

My first thought when I saw “starving Andy” in the movie was: skis. Every mall has at least one sporting goods store, which should have skis. Skis are flexible and springy enough that they should make a dandy catapult.

Fire, though, seems like a bad idea with zombies. Set one on fire, and he’ll either not notice or just flail about, setting more and more stuff on fire, including your stronghold. I reckon it’s better not to chance it.

Wilbur, I need braaaaaainsss.

That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Dead.

Tsk tsk. Poor guy gets beaten a lot around here.

Done.

I’ve always wondered about that too. That’s exactly what the Zombie Survival Guide says happen; zombies can’t feel pain and have no self-preservation instinct so they just keep moving around spreading the fire until they’re too burned up to move.

Most gas stations are used to getting deliveries about twice a week. The early days of the outbreak would likely involve a sudden rush of traffic and a breakdown of supply. And that’s ignoring any kind of government rationing orders. By the time a gas station is abandoned there won’t be any gas left (& there’s the matter of running the pumps w/o power). Even if there’s gasoline left it’ll be useless within a year. Finding food for horses is going to be easier than finding fuel.

I’m thinking a bicycle is the most reliable way to go. It’s silent and you can get a nice distance from population centres even after a day. In the army we rode on these: http://kauppa.supersports.fi/WebRoot/Supersports/Shops/supersports/45DB/07FB/ABA8/FCE3/95F8/C0A8/071D/ABE1/JAAKARI.jpg
No frills but very reliable. We could easily cover over 60 miles per day with full gear, and that was on the version without gears (even easier to service).

And of course, after the zombies catch them…

Forget nukes. Cities burn. Everyday firefighters have a job to do. No more firefighters; you will eventually die from smoke or flame in your barricaded refuge

How about shooting an bow and arrow from the sporting goods store or an Estes model rocket from the toy store attached to a length of fishing line. Then you pull accross a heavier rope or cable. Now you can set up a little rig to ferry ammo and food back and forth.

Night of the Living Dead - house
Dawn of the Dead - mall
Day of the Dead - military bunker
Land of the Dead - fortified city
Diary of the Dead - friend’s mansion
Planet Terror - BBQ joint
28 Days Later - appartment complex, later an English manor in the country
28 Weeks Later - military fortified city

Zombieland - they pretty much stayed mobile
Resident Evil - Mostly mobile

The problem with trying to dig in and wait it out is that eventually you are going to run out of food, ammo, medicine or some other critical supply. Or negligence, internal conflict or some dumb plain ole mechanical failure will eventually lead to a breach in security and in come the zombies. Chances are your long-term presence will have attracted a fair number of the walking dead making it extremely unlikely that you will be able to escape.

Of course the flip side is that if you are on the road, you have little protection from zombies, bandits, gangs or rouge National Guardsmen if you break down, run out of gas or are caught away from your vehicle.

But either way, you are better off being far away from where people are.
I think people love zombie/rage plague films because it’s facinating watching a system collapse on itself. Society can be viewed as a complex system where each person is a “node” that performs a specific task. Protecting and serving the public, picking up trash, driving trucks, whatever their job is. A zombie outbreak attacks the nodes of that system, turning them against the system. The system (society) tries to fight back to defend itself, but as it fights back, it is weakened as a) attrition as individuals are turned into zombies, b) resources must be diverted from normal activities to fight/defend against zombies and c) the system turns on itself as conflicts over the last remaining available resources arise (weapons, food, transpo, defendable locations).

Eventually an inflection point is reached where the system can no longer function and it collapses. Police and military units lose cohesion. Logistical networks break down. Hospitals no longer function (and indeed often exacerbate the problem as they unwittingly expose staff and uninfected patients to zombie victims).

Pockets of resistance may form temporarily, holed up in whatever facility they were able to secure for themselves. But as I stated above, since these refuges are usually not self sustaining or stable, they too will ultimately collapse.

And unfortunately there is no equilibrium point that allows humans and zombies to coexist.

I’d rather be riding in one of these

If “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is struck down for good, this is going to be an even greater problem.

You have no idea. And there’s really, really good fiction in the Art section :slight_smile:

Since this is a zombie thread, I feel obligated (why I didn’t feel obligated in my first post I don’t know…) to let everyone know the AMC has adapted the graphic novel/comic series “The Walking Dead” into a TV show that is premiering Halloween night.

Official AMC site.

It looks fan-TAS-tic. And even if you’ve read the series, they aren’t going to be 100% true to it. (Insert everyone bitching and moaning about that here :rolleyes:) The make up and effects are mind blowing…and stomach churning. In one of the “behind the scenes” videos you see how gruesome they get, and one of the directors talking about how they kept pushing the envelope with some things, and AMC never once said “that’s too far.” It looks like every episode will be even more disgusting than that one episode of Breaking Bad…you know the one I mean.

[spoiler]Half dissolved drug dealer falling through the ceiling.[./spoiler]

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If “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is struck down for good, this is going to be an even greater problem.
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Nitpick, but it’s not a zombie “invasion”, it’s an “infestation” or “outbreak”. The zombies aren’t an external enemy.

wipes away a tear

I love you guys, and if I ever become a zombie, I’m eating your brains last.

Regards,
Shodan