Yes, Omni, unfortunately, it is natural for humans to hate. But it seems to me that one should try to overcome one’s hate, and not revel in it and celebrate it.
Natural does not always mean good.
Yes, Omni, unfortunately, it is natural for humans to hate. But it seems to me that one should try to overcome one’s hate, and not revel in it and celebrate it.
Natural does not always mean good.
Omni
I’m curious.
Will you call me a liar if I tell you that there is not one single soul that I hate, nor that I have ever hated?
There are people I dislike, but no one that I hate.
Hate is natural, but it has its consequences. You just don’t want to seem to deal with them Omni.
I don’t even see any evidence that hate is natural, honestly. Endemic, certainly, but inherent? Nope, I disagree.
And whether or not hate is going to happen, I do not consider it an acceptable emotion for myself or those I love, and I do not accept it as inevitable, and I will not cease fighting it.
Is it a pipe dream? Yup, probably. But I don’t give a fuck. You go ahead and hate, son. And I’ll continue to ask that you get over it.
Well, you’re talking about two different things here. Sure, you have a right to keep hating (you really want to cling to the right to hate millions of people you never met and never did anything to you dispite any good reasons you’re given not to? Ok, fine )
However…
So the whole country is YOUR table? or are you worried about a law allowing same-sex couples to raise their kids in you’re living room? If you’re talking about the laws of the country, it’s all of our’s table (the table of all of us?). And asparagus will be served. And no you don’t have to like it.
Ideas about what constitutes normal sexuality DO in fact change, more and more people are getting over their bigotry, so if you want to hang on to you’re, you might end up feeling like a fifth wheel. Get use to it.
Wow, what a long thread this is! I see I got here on the late side.
Most of the discussion here seems to be focused on gay rights, and whether or not it’s okay to be gay…as I recall, that wasn’t the original poster’s question.
He just wanted to know if it was okay that he doesn’t like homesexuality.
You have a right to your own opinion.
You have a right to think homosexuality is wrong.
You have a right to politely express that opinion, when it is appropriate to do so.
You have a right to choose not to be friend with gay people.
However…
You do not have a right to beat up gay people.
You do not have a right to call gay people names.
You do not have a right to refuse to hire or promote a gay person, based on his sexual persuasion.
You do not have a right to make a gay co-worker’s life miserable.
On the other hand, it goes both ways… other people share those same rights with you.
Once you tell a new acquaintance your views on any particular subject, he is also free to use that information as a basis on wheter or not to be your friend.
I don’t like Brussels sprouts. If other people want to eat Brussels sprouts in the privacy of their own homes, with the shades drawn, and never, ever mention this fact to me, that’s one thing. But for a restaurant to serve Brussels sprouts to that guy across the room is clearly* putting Brussels sprouts on my table, and for the grocery store to sell Brussels sprouts in little boxes in the frozen vegetables section, right next to the other, Godly frozen vegetables, with pictures of the unholy things right there on the container and everything, is clearly* forcing them into my home.
*By “clearly” I of course mean “according to some absurd standard of logic worthy of a Superman comic or an episode of Seinfeld”. Me love Brussels sprouts. Me want to eat Brussels sprouts three meals a day! Me love how they keep expanding to fill mouth as I keep chewing them, and never, ever go away!
MEBuckner, you all are clearly avoiding the essential issue here, which is the canned vs. frozen debate. Fence-sitters.
Hey, now - he might be bivegetative.
Esprix
I wonder how many Aussies are pissing themselves laughing now that peoples’ entitlement to sprouts has entered the debate.
BTW, 'Sprix, The Outback Steakhouse near us has a decidedly interesting menu. Their Aussie burger - complete with an egg and beetroot - is called “The Big Bugger”. I guess Omni won’t be ordering that.
Yes, the whole country is my table. The whole world is my table. So, the mod is correct is saying that if the sprouts are sold in MY market, the sprouts are, in essence, being forced on my table. Yes, it’s up to me to change it if I don’t like it.
It doesn’t have to be an obvious assault as if one thrust a steaming hot bowl of brussel sprouts under my nose as I eat. It can be seeded on such a low level and grow into an issue.
If an adopted child of homosexual parents befriends a child of mine on the playground or at school, no harm done right? Hmmmm, makes me think though. Will MY child start to think that the idea of Mother and Father is two men or two women? That makes me uncomfortable to think that that’s what they would think and I’d probably intervene.
Call it bigotry, call it whatever you want - I call it teaching my children right from wrong.
And it IS wrong because, if it were right, God would have created Adam and Adam or Eve and Eve. And that’s as far as it would have gone!!!
Anyone who would deny equal right to another person because they are different than they are, be it in terms of sexual orientation, religious background, racial classification, whatever, is a bigot, and bigots should not even be welcomed at the table of a civlized society, so why should you care what we eat?
If God didn’t want there to be homosexuals, he wouldn’t have made us gay.
And if you don’t want your child associating with the children of gay couples, then teach your child your hateful bigotry, and he’ll turn into a gay-bashing monster like you, and you won’t have to worry about it. Or you could simply put your foot down and say “No, we don’t associate with those types of folks.”
I, for one, will not let my children, should I have or adopt any, ever set foot in a Baptist church so long as he/she lives under my roof. You can do the same thing with your kids.
And there we have it. Irrational behavior simply cannot be justified rationally, and so, whenever an argument with someone sporting bigoted attitudes goes on long enough, you come to the fundamental, nonsensical core of their supposed logic.
I’m sure your Savior is going to be mighty proud of you, hating all these people for him. After all, that’s just what He preached, right? Hate, intolerance, bigotry, ignorance… He was big into all of that. Oh, wait… that was the other guy.
As opposed to the idea that a family is only what you and your spouse present? I’m running on the assumption that you are not a single parent, have a spouse of the opposite gender who is the same race, and follow roughly the same religious practices, and have no other relatives who help out.
Because as you know, the world conforms to your narrow definitions.
Actually, you’re supposed to say “Adam and Steve”. It’s funnier that way.
But that argument falls completely apart. Consider anal and oral sex. If God did not intend those things, why did he make them both possible and pleasurable? Could he have not placed a fine mesh screen over those orifices? Outward curving teeth in the anus? Strongly acidic saliva?
We can’t directly observe Adam and Eve so it’s hard to infer God’s purpose from them. But we can surely observe that homosexual sex is possible, and thereby must have been anticipated by God. In fact, it was created by God in the sense that he made a world where it was possible. The fact that he made it pleasurable is even more encouraging.
Or perhaps you think that God was genuinely surprised: “medammit, I never even considered they’d try that!” Or maybe he just goofed on that creation thing?
Eh, that’s ok - one of Tarkus’ kids will turn out queer. God does, indeed, have a sense of humor.
Esprix
So, wait. Gays can’t adopt kids because there’s a chance that, if they do, your kid might start thinking something or having an opinion that differs from yours?
Boy, that’s what I get for not reading the poster’s name by the post…I honestly thought Tarkus’ recent post was an amusing parody of a homophobe until I saw the response and checked out his other posts. I mean, “Yes, the whole country is my table. The whole world is my table. So, the mod is correct is saying that if the sprouts are sold in MY market, the sprouts are, in essence, being forced on my table.”? Okayy…
Yup, that’s his argument.
And I assume Tarkus feels the same way about atheists, liberals, Hindus, rock musicians, Trek geeks . . .