Is it true that no good deed goes unpunished?

I apologize for this being such a long post. But it has been a kind of a long, sad and frustrating saga for me.

I know this lady who lives in my neighborhood. She has a job that puts her in touch on a regular basis with most everyone who lives in the neighborhood. She sees most everyone every day and talks with most everyone every day. I don’t want to specify her exact job because I want to try and remain anonymous here, if possible. It is generally well known in the neighborhood that this lady suffers from back pain as a result of a childhood accident. She has had many spinal operations since that time, but unfortunately, none of them seems to have done any good. She is always talking about the terrible back pain she is suffering. Strangely enough, however, no one I know has ever seen her exhibit any symptoms of back pain. The only evidence seems to be that she is absent from her job about one day in ten due to back pain. Aside from that, she appears to be completely healthy.

About three months ago, I discovered that I had in my possession a large supply of pain killers that might likely ease her pain. I got these a few years ago and it had completely slipped my mind that I still had them. I asked her if she’d be interested in trying some and she said that she would. She appeared to be extremely overjoyed at the prospect. As it turned out, she was very familiar with these pain killers as well as most every other kind of pain killer. She told me these pain killers worked like a miracle. She said they removed all of her pain for a 24 hour period and enabled her to function normally throughout that 24 hours. Strangely enough, however, during the past three months that I have kept her supplied with these pain killers, she has continued to be absent from work about one day in ten due to back pain. Also, strangely enough, despite my urging her to go see a doctor and get her own pain killers, she has always found some excuse why she can’t. I found this to be perplexing and maybe even disturbing but said nothing because she is a very nice lady and well liked by everyone. I didn’t want to cause any problems for her. However, it could be that she just couldn’t afford to buy them. They are fairly expensive.

Anyway, during the past three months, I would see her once per week and gave her a week’s supply of the pain killers every week. Throughout this period, I tried to find a way to get some kind of fair exchange going. Unfortunately, there was just nothing forthcoming from this lady. I suggested two or three different ways in which we could make an exchange that would be fair. But she just wasn’t having any of it.
Here is my problem. Throughout the entire three months, she was always extremely happy to see me. Not just at the times I gave her the week’s supply of pain killers, but any time she saw me, she would always break out into a huge smile and want to hug me and call me, “her good friend”. “Hello, my friend”! “How are you today my friend”? “You are looking very well today, my friend”. I found it all to be kind of sickening since she would never answer any of my overtures about ways that she could do something for me to create an exchange that I would feel was somewhat fair. I needed for her to give me something in return for what I was giving her so that I could feel that something fair was happening. But, there was never anything forthcoming. I made it clear to her that I was not comfortable with her hugs or anything more intimate.

The last straw for me was that I asked her - in person - if she would do a specific favor for me. I also sent her this request in an email. We had exchanged emails fairly regularly, so I was certain that she would have received this email. I never mentioned anything explicit in my request and my email about how this would represent a fair exchange in return for the pain killers, but given that this had been the one constant topic of conversation between us over the past three months, I assumed she would have understood that was the case. Well, I guess I should have known better than to assume. She never answered my email and when I saw her a few times after sending the email, she never mentioned anything about my request for help and just basically ignored my request for help.

So, I stopped giving her the pain killers and now, she treats me as if I was the worst person in the world - as if I snatched one of her children and murdered it - as if I borrowed a thousand dollars from her and refuse to pay her back.

I am left wondering, is it true that no good deed goes unpunished? The only thing I ever did to her that could be considered wrong was that I did her a good deed and then I stopped. Had I never started doing this good deed to her, we would still be friendly and I would still be seen, in her eyes, as a good guy. All of the friendly feelings she displayed to me during the three months I was giving her the pain killers have now vanished. During those three months, I was a good guy and her good friend. But once I stopped, she treats me like a rat and a snake - as if I did something extremely reprehensible to her.

It’s an interesting dilemma. If I had never done the good deed for her, there would never have been any problem. All of the friendliness she displayed towards me during these past three months has been completely forgotten. All of the good deeds I did for her have been forgotten. Now, all that remains is some terrible wrong that I did to her by stopping performing the good deed.

What is the answer? Should people just never go out of their way to do a good deed for others? In my experience, in most cases (especially if it involves loaning people money), there is just no way that doing someone a good deed can come back to reward you with some happiness or some satisfaction that you’ve done a good deed. For some reason, it always seems to bounce back on the person who does the good deed and give them grief and unhappiness and the wish that they had never done this good deed in the first place.

What are your experiences? Are they similar? Do you have any answers for this dilemma?

I’d like to offer my polite observation of the scenario you described. I hope that, having taken the time to write such a carefully considered summary of events, you go back now and read them in a more appropriate context.

What actually has happened is that you’ve fallen prey to a drug addict. This is textbook drug addict behavior. Her subtle trolling for drugs snagged you, and you became her supplier under the guise of “doing a good deed.” Of course she was delighted with this arrangement, and perhaps the interactions were pleasant and rewarding for you. But what you mistook for a mutual friendship was really just a junkie-dealer relationship, and when you cut off the supply she reacted predictably. Perhaps the fact that she was unwilling to reciprocate your “favors” in any way should have been a sign, but I’m not here to judge.

You didn’t do a good deed. You supplied an addict with narcotics, you did it for a long time, and it sounds like you ended up with very predictable consequences. Be thankful that there were not much more serious consequences – you in jail, she or someone else dead – and take this as a very big life lesson.

Assuming you’re in the US:

If the medications you’ve been giving her are prescription ones, you’re committing a misdemeanor (and possibly a felony) by giving them to her.

If they’re not just prescription ones, but DEA scheduled narcotics, you’re definitely committing a felony.

Assuming that the OP did nothing illegal (i.e. these were not prescription pain killers etc.), what has the OP really lost? Other than a smile and a friendly conversation.

Before your “good gesture” you got her sob story about her pain, but friendly conversation on a regular basis. After you stopped supplying her with pain medication, you get rude behavior from her. SO WHAT? Do you crave friendly interaction from people that want to use you so much?

Let it go. You’re better off.

OTOH, if you were supplying her illegal drugs, you get what you deserved. Does the drug dealer that get’s shafted by his customer complain about good deeds going unpunished? No.

The OP is obviously not a drug dealer, as any semi-competent dealer insists on being paid in cash up front.

ETA: Sorry, that was not entirely logical. The OP could be a less than semi-competent drug dealer.

I have to agree with most everything you have said. The OP has to learn from this incident.

You had at least three months supply of (presumably) prescription painkillers that you had **forgotten **about?! You do know that the “Dope” in the name of this message board doesn’t refer to the slang term for illicit drugs, I hope.

Let’s see…

You “discovered” a “large supply” of some painkillers in your possession. Okaaay…
You practiced medicine without a license doling them out to a chronic painer.
You cut her off when she wouldn’t do you an (unspecified) favor…

That’s called quid pro quo; not doing a good deed. It might even be called ensnaring someone with narcotics in the hope of recouping the investment with a “favor.”

What good deed has been punished, and how? Did you ask her to make an undocumented withdrawal from the local bank and she refused, or something?

I never said the pain killers were “prescription painkillers” and I think it would be best if I don’t specify exactly what kind of painkillers they were or in which country I live.

The one thing that I can tell you is that given what I’ve learned here, I’m going to flush all the painkillers I have left and as far as I’m concerned, this lady can get lost.

I’m guessing that she will either get some rehab or get another supplier (hopefully she will get some rehab). But that is her choice. If she ever comes back to me, I will be only to happy to tell her that I no longer have anything available for her - not at any price - and especially not for free!

This was a very nasty experience for me. But I learned some very valuable lessons.

I’m saying they are, and I’m saying they are narcotics, in particular.

I’ve been around too long to think anything else. Were you hoping we’d be thinking maybe you are the local Tylenol man?

Oh yeah; since this is GQ: Many good deeds go unrequited, and the cynics among us like to characterize that pejoratively as “unpunished.” And of course many things done with good intentions do have negative consequences for the one who did them.

Please don’t flush them. Medication gets in the water supply that way. If you take them to a local pharmacy they will dispose of them properly for you.

No, if he said what it was, he’d have grounds for being modded for espousing illegal activities. Your initial response shows no additional level of insight, as your tone seems to indicate that you think.

I really want to get into my opinion of people who are hostile to druggies, rather than actually being helpful, but this is not the proper place. And I’m not going to start a thread just to get bashed, despite not being in the Pit.

I’m quite sure that nobody was under the impression that the OP was a drug dealer with any degree of competence. Above ‘in-’.

I believe the definitive study on good deeds found that only 93.28% were punished, but a later metareview of the scientific literature suggested that 92.4% may be more accurate. :slight_smile:

More seriously: Every good deed offered to an addict of any type is always punished.

And I’m not convinced that what you did was a good deed to begin with. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but it sounds like you have broken laws, enabled an addict, and punished her when you were unable to manipulate the situation for your own benefit.

Don’t act like you did such a good deed. What you did was a felony if those pain killers were prescription drugs as they must have been. And where do you get such a supply? You were like the drug peddler on the school yard that gives the stuff away free until the kid is hooked and then demands payment. You would be lucky if she doesn’t rat you out and you end up in jail. That’s even worse then stuffing your mail in the drain.

There is very little in this account that paints a picture of you in a positive light, and very much that does the opposite.

Also, this question is unanswerable for your situation, as I don’t think that something done in expectation of receiving something qualifies as a 'good deed".

Dissecting the OP like a stale cadaver…

JackWhite said:

I can’t imagine a job where I live that puts anyone in touch with almost everyone in the neighborhood. Maybe postal worker, but I have no regular contact with mine, just receive mail in my box. Maybe you live in a building, and it’s the security? Okay, speculating on her job is irrelevant, I will assume for the sake of your story this lady had frequent interaction with most of your neighbors, which is why it is significant to you, because you are worried she is now running down your reputation. Right?

You just happen to have in your possession a 3mos + supply of painkillers? What, did you rob an Alleve delivery truck? I’m trying to think how one might legally acquire a large supply of pain relievers. Let’s assume you had an arthritic “aunt” suffering from slow debilitating disease that finally knocked her off just after she bought a round of meds.

Another indicator we are not talking OTC meds.

So first you offered her a gift, which she was pleased to accept. Then you tried to turn that gift into “some kind of fair exchange”. Uh huh.

Was it sickening because she was saying nice things but not giving you a “fair exchange”, or was it sickening because she was vastly overselling the nature of your relationship? In other words, sucking up to you?

Never use email if you don’t want a paper trail, and if you want to ensure receipt. There’s an electronic “read receipt” which if used would tell you she got it, too late for that now. But to ensure message received, you must witness the receipt of the message.

“Specific favor” is so generic, and given the rest of the tone of this message, it makes me wonder just what kind of favor you would be “requesting” that you can’t spell out. Perhaps something (else) illegal? (Giving OTC meds isn’t illegal, but why would she need to get them from you in 1 week lots? Anything requiring a prescription is illegal for you to give her. Well, I should say probably, since I don’t know where you live and am not a legal expert. But given your strong desire for annonymity and sketchiness of the details involved, I strongly suspect it is illegal and that you know that.)

Yes, first you gave her a gift, then you stopped giving her a gift when she wouldn’t perform some action for you, “pay” you.

What good deed is it you think you did? Giving her a gift, or trying to turn that gift into some sort of “equitable transaction”? That’s not a good deed, that’s a manipulation for your own gain. You had something you didn’t need/want, she had a need/want for the thing you had. That may be the basis for an economic transaction, but it’s not the basis for “a good deed”. Do you think your grocery store has done a good deed by stocking food products for you to buy? Starbucks has done a good deed by offering to sell you coffee?

Okay, so this is the point of your post, as opposed to all the set up above which you technically were not asking for advice about. If that is the case, I don’t think this thread properly belongs in GQ. Rather, this is an IMHO thread to discuss opinions about “does no good deed go unpunished”, i.e. try to do something good for someone and only reap pain and misery for your efforts.

To address that topic, let me ask you, what are your expectations? When you are doing “a good deed” for someone, are you doing something to help them, or are you doing something expecting some return for your “investment”?

My own anecdotal experience, I have a couple* of “friends” who I tried to help a few times. I gave advice, I tried to encourage and help job hunt, I helped with a few difficult situations like evictions and moves. I tried to encourage better decision making and better behavior. I also lent them money. At the time, I felt fairly certain it was a risky move, now I am certain I will never see that money back. I had no expectation of quid pro quo or them helping me or whatever, although at the time I thought there was a chance I would get some of the money back eventually. Now I realize how naive my belief was. They were sometimes fun to spend time with and we did some interesting things, but ultimately I decided I didn’t need their drama.

Did my good deeds get punished? I suppose so if you count lended money becoming gifted money without consent. Fortunately there were a couple other situations that I didn’t get tangled up in.

Flipside, there is a young lady that I know, she was having a rough time lately with bills and a car accident - not hurt, but financial hit. She was feeling depressed and stressed out. It was her birthday, so I spent a little extra and got her a nice gift. It made her happy (it elicited a huge smile). My only expectation was making her happy for a bit. I succeeded. I have yet to be punished for that good deed.

This seems to be the real root of your complaint.


*They were a couple. Situations change.

Yeah, there was no good deed here.

Yesterday was my supervisor’s birthday. It was one of the Big Number birthdays and she was kind of down about it. I planned a surprise for her at work that was acknowledgment enough but not so much that it made her uncomfortable. I made her homemade whoopie pies. I gave her a gift in private that I tried really hard to get in the right range of something she would like but not something that was too much. Judging from her reaction, I did so.

When she left the office today, she thanked me and told me that today made her feel really special. That’s exactly what I was going for.

I feel awesome. I think that was more along the lines of a good deed.

Yes, you did.

From the OP:

If she needs a doctor’s involvement to get her own pain killers then they are by definition prescription medication. I also note that non-prescription painkillers are not actually expensive.

Even ignoring the issue of handling random drugs to random people, I fail to see a “good deed”, here. You were expecting a “fair deal”, getting back something for it, and insisted to get it. That’s a trade relation you had in mind, not a “good deed”.
By the way, this thread seems more suited to IMHO.