Is Kim's Convenience racist?

Cheque’s in the mail, but it’s in Yap Islander currency so postage may be a bit dear when you cash it in…

It’s on Netflix. I’m currently going through it.

The characters on the show are characters with personalities that go far beyond stereotypes. I think it would work just fine with any other racial group.

It is the definition of stereotyping.

Let me know when you get to S4ep1 - whether you find the racism bit as spot on as I did.

So wait. Any time characters act in a way some real people do is stereotyping?

Oh, I guess if you’re saying it that must be reality.
Go and re-read my post above that quotes the makers of the show.

And here I thought Kim’s Convenience’s biggest sin was being too banally CBC…

Too late to edit, I say that as someone who is subscribed to CBC Gem.

“So wait. Any time characters act in a way some real people do is stereotyping?”

slaps head

Duh…of course that’s exactly what a stereotype is!. I meant to say I know some people so who act that way. Open and honest wit their thoughts and especially the way Asian parents, including my own treat their children.

I think Bippity was responding to @bump’s tale of how bump himself described his local trick or treaters. Nothing to do directly with the show.

LSL gets it in one :+1:t4:

@BippityBoppityBoo Having read bump’s post I see I owe you an apology. I am sorry for misunderstanding the context of your post.

We’re good.

The CBC has the habit of telling Canadians that they are multicultural, through their productions. In addition to “Kim’s Convenience,” they have also produced and broadcast “Little Mosque on the Prairie,” about Muslims in Saskatchewan; “King of Kensington” (about a Jewish shopkeeper in Toronto, whose friends included a black Jamaican); and “Adventures in Rainbow Country,” which featured plucky Billy (a white kid), aided by his friends: a Cree Indian and a French-Canadian, in adventures in northern Ontario. “The Beachcombers,” which ran for years, starred a Greek boat operator in British Columbia.

The CBC isn’t racist. It’s merely trying to reflect the multicultural makeup of Canada. Sometimes, it’s a little heavy-handed, but it means well. Its productions may not translate well to other countries, however.

Seems to be exactly what the BBC does too, and that’s great.

“Dance Me Outside,” a film about life on a First Nations reservation, was written by white guy WP Kinsella (as was the series The Rez and the novel/film Shoeless Joe/Field of Dreams). The film featured First Nations actors and characters and told a story that presented these characters with depth and humour. Was it racist? Because it was written by a non-native? I don’t think so. Perhaps I’m naive.

The fact that an actual Canadian-Korean is in charge is a good indicator that they know enough about Korean immigrant culture to avoid anything that would be hateful to Koreans and Korean immigrants. It’s not perfect, but, unless you see a bunch of Korean immigrants saying the show is offensive, it’s probably not.

And, yes, it is largely about listening to the actual minorities in question instead of trying to dictate what is and is not “racist.” Sure, there are some absolutes with racism, but when it comes to whether or not a particular portrayal is stereotypical and hurtful, that is pretty much up to them.

Just makes sure you check with the actual audience. One time this has been misused is people asking actual Japanese about depictions that were offensive to Japanese-Americans. Japanese people lack the context that the Americans knew, and the works in question were American.

You can, of course, get a good general idea of what a group would find offensive. But that’s for those who have done so. If you haven’t, then just listen to what the mainstream opinion in that group is. That’s probably good enough.

As for your own feelings–those are up to you. Even if something is problematic, it’s okay for you to find it funny and enjoy it. That’s something that the people yelling at the “SJWs” never seem to get. Someone saying that, say, Beauty and the Beast was problematic are not saying “you should not enjoy this.”

Fair enough. What I was trying to get at is that I’m not assigning any negative attributes or anything like that- it’s just a mostly accurate indicator of where someone lives in my part of town. It doesn’t imply anything else about them.

It’s like saying that someone with a “Texas Farm Truck” license plate on their pickup truck probably lives in a rural area somewhere in Texas. It’s most likely true, but not 100% absolutely true, as there are almost certainly people with those license plates who live in other states, and who live in cities. And it doesn’t indicate anything else about them either.

It may be a stereotype, but it’s a very limited one without all the usual baggage of a stereotype.

This show isn’t racist or accurate at all! I just watched episode 5 and Eomma told Janet she loved her. No first generation Asian/Canadian would do that! LOL! :smile:

Darn you!

You owe me $8.99 for Netflix :moneybag: AND 4 days of binge watching every episode :pleading_face: PLUS the emotional damage of having to wait until the debut of Season 5 to see what happens next! :fearful:

Darn you! Darn you! Darn you! Oh and thanks for talking about such a great show! Darn you!