jokes involving violence if not met with silence @ least ought not b applauded, but since the joke is on me, i m bound 2 feel this way…
quit being a dope. & if u r straight or not, my directive stands…
That’s not the half of it; it’s a gluten quarry.
In gluten free’s case, her post *is *her cite. I suspect she displays the results of years of accumulated gluten neurotoxin damage.
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jokes involving violence if not met with silence @ least ought not b applauded, but since the joke is on me, i m bound 2 feel this way…
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What should jokes involving replies in broken English and texting horseshit that aren’t meant to be jokes be met with? Probably silence as well, but since the joke is on you I’m going to just go with the ‘point and laugh’ crowd here in the thread until either A) you figure things out and start posting like a mature adult who has some basic grasp of written English, or B) you get tired and wander back to whatever hole you crawled out of, or C) one of us gets banned, or D) Bo finds you and comes in here with his big boots, a determined look on his face and the gleam of quarry dust in his eye.
This is not an exhaustive list of the possible options, of course, but it’s a good baseline…
Well, I’m a ‘dope’ who at least has a nominal grasp of both board etiquette AND a minimal command of written English. Plus I have the ability, modest to be sure, to actually learn and adapt to the forum I’m posting in, especially when people repeatedly beat me over the head with it. Sadly, this seems 2b b3y0nd u (this last part was in code so that perhaps you can grasp the meaning better).
-XT
No, I don’t “c” your point because your ridiculous insistence on L33T obscures your message.
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Nobody is disputing that gluten is bad for celiacs and other acutely sensitive people.
But there seems nothing other than bald assertion supporting the notion that it is bad in general.
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Its a fact that persons have tested negative on the GENE tests 4 celiac & been nonetheless positive on OTHER tests; & these other tests have FALSE NEGATIVE capability,( but not false positive)…which = that
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people get missed on tests, entirely due 2 being improperly, incompletely tested, other contributors
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the genes used in testing 4 it r NOT the only genes involved, admittedly, only the MOST common associated; as 2 a citation, this was admitted 2 me by QUEST DIAGNOSTICS, whom provides the gene testing & evidently, research…the existing test’s efficacy @ 1 pt in time had decreased by several points, (due 2 people found positive on reliable, non gene tests, in spite of being marked negative on existing gene test), but in spite of this, persons continue 2 utilize it (which supports research) in some cases marked negative falsely on other tests, when gluten is harming them (as they would not b directed 2 cease eating it, otherwise).
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testing has historically been inconclusive & diagnoses once were made on observation mainly, but as testing methods improved (like gene testing)/ available these became OVER relied upon (& y my dr had said i m NOT 2 eat gluten/wheat, no matter how the tests turn out…i had a noted severe response on re introducing it) & a partial positive response on testing. ..in this case, partly positive is not a negative, but is often marked as such on the non gene portion of testing.
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celiac, gluten intolerance/insensitivity remains often UNDERDIAGNOSED 4 combined reasons.
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SINCE people r routinely MISSED on tests 4 numerous reasons,
the ONLY 100% reliable way 2 ensure NOT developing issues is 2 AVOID eating gluten, period (THAT is from Cleo Libonati, RN BSN’s publicized compiled research- she GATHERED research from confirmed sources, cited these & compiled them in2 that compendium I reccomended, prior)
It was reccomended by advocates @ Celiac Central that the entire household be gluten free when one member is identified, 2 b helpful, however, should b noted that eliminating it without first being tested can result in false negative results; www.celiaccentral.org should b contacted 4 complete testing guidelines.
the book ‘recognizing celiac disease, signs, symptoms, associated disorders & complications’ ALSO has reccomended balanced dietary guidelines, detailing how to eat a balanced diet - be it vegetarian, or veggies, meat, in the absence of gluten, which grains contain it, which u may safely explore as an alternative & a vitamin & mineral nutrient guide 4 addressing deficits which is unique in it’s easy 2 use format.
I’d not have mentioned these things, but the knowledge has been known 2 me 2 save lives & u should have the benefit of this information as well as any1…even with my frosty reception still think so.
nobody really needs coffee…its more a want rather than requirement…
tho, these could b fighting words depending upon whom reads them & 4 that, u have my apologies.
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[QUOTE=The ONLY 100% reliable way 2 ensure u will NOT have issues with gluten is 2 not eat it, period.
4. celiac, gluten intolerance/insensitivity remains often UNDERDIAGNOSED 4 combined reasons.
- SINCE people r routinely MISSED on tests 4 numerous reasons,
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ought to read, a
my thumb hit the 4 instead;
among probably other typos.
well broomstick, u r the 1, 2 choose witch way 2 go with the provided info…
as 4 my manner of typing its not speak @ all, but keypokes & if i could get the voice operated software 2 properly function on here, wouldve done so, already…
otherwise, im not keen on these sortsa retaliations…
@ least id have a softer landing…
perhaps if we hadnt known a family whom lost the life of a family member when he was alleged 2 have either fallen or been pushed into a quarry, tho i was not there when it happened, it did not strike me as a desired activity (2 meet ones end, that way); maybe this would b amusing, otherwise. ..& it wasnt a gluten quarry, far as i was made aware.
u can join the club 4 people preferring id meet this sort of end. 2 b honest, id just as soon not b here in my current condition. I m not referring 2 typing style ,either..
So what I’m getting is that the entire human race is desperately, dangerously ill from eating gluten, but the symptoms are just not obvious. At all. In the overwhelming majority of cases.
In fact this ailment hides itself so cunningly and completely, that nearly everyone ultimately dies of some other, unrelated cause before the symptoms ever emerge.
You’ll of course come back with some reply about how gluten is really, really bad for some people, as if that proves something about everbody else.
I’m 100% sure (minus the standard scientific caveat that nothing is certain) that I’m not currently risking my life by consuming gluten. I’ve no marked digestive problems alleviated by avoiding gluten and appear to have normal absorption of nutrition from the food I consume. As I read you,
- you recommend I give up gluten,
- you recommend this because
a) there are no perfect tests for celiacs disease and gluten intolerances,
b) given that there is no perfect test I could have mild nutritional deficiencies due to an undiagnosed sensitivity
c) because someone claims it’s a neurotoxin.
Is this a correct interpretation of your stance?
But you’re sick! And you might never realise it!
So are you saying *everyone *is at risk from having reactions to gluten, or only some people are but they might not ever test positive for it? Do you also mean that even if you are fine with gluten now you can later on develop a reaction to it?
Maybe it’s the neurotoxic affects of gluten that keep everyone from accepting gluten free’s evidence and understanding her posts? Given that it’s been slowly destroying our nervous systems our entire lives, apparently to the point that we’re so far gone that we can’t see that it’s happened, I’d imagine it’s a waste of her efforts to try to convince anyone here of the truth. Perhaps she’d be better off having this argument with children. Only because there’s still hope for them.
i never said 2 trust the author, i said consult, with them, regarding the research they collected into concentrated 4mat.
4 th record, i never asked 2 b what amounts 2 a public service announcement purveyor regarding not only this, i was sort of shoved, or fell in2 it if u prefer…so, threatening me (as some have) with a tossing over embankment of some kind ought b informed, ive already been there, done that, in more ways u could imagine…as the tossee (never the tosser)
…poising self in forward bent position @ edge of cliff in effort 2 better serve those interested in projecting her over edge, as per reccomendations…& in prep 4 dive, which presumes best airlift conditions on the way down…
wouldn’t want any1 2 strain selves…
& NO, falling 2 death, not the least bit amusing. This was defensive reflex in attempt 2 appease threateners…
& the author of the book reported 2 us having helped an 84 yr old, improve some with this information…knowledge is power!
Never even once have i spoken from that region. If i start tho, i will b sure 2 post u a citation on it…
no, that was not @ all what i was telling u; the problem of gluten is not merely gluten, itself, but the nutrient deficits in variation it contributes, to…which, depending upon your genetic makeup, expresses itself in other ways very often, including the triggering or exacerbation of inherited conditions, such as autoimmune disorders, but not limited 2 this…celiac is one autoimmune disorder, among others. The immune system seeks 2 eliminate the invader, gluten, but targets surrounding tissues, instead…think of an immune system in overdrive all the time. In my family member’s case, his immune system did not stop @ gluten, but began 2 go after his thyroid hormones, which it saw as invaders, also…then, the thyroid…which responded by forming cysts, so many of them they could not all be counted…which may have entirely killed its’ function, it’s 2 soon 2 say…but gluten is known as an antagonist in the whole deal. THIS is how it was explained 2 me, by those mentioned whom r WAY more qualified than i ever could hope 2 b…which is y, 4 effectiveness sake & 2 save u a whole lotta eyestrain, i sent u elsewheres…
& IN my family members case, it was his thyroid…4 others, it’s other parts, like the joints…
& NO, i m not smoking these, in case u wondrd…
& YES, i came back…y, i do not have a suitable reply.