In some states 15 years old is old enough to drive. If they have the capabilities to operate a potentially deadly weapon, they most certainly are capable of making sexual decisions. So long as it doesn’t interfere with my well-being, I couldn’t care less the outcome of their decision.
I too was 15 at one point, and was fully aware of the consequences of my actions. In fact, I had an older woman come onto me (est. 20, 21), though I was not interested in her at all (mainly due to age). I felt it to be a rational decision and it’s certainly not one of the harder ones I had made at that age (whether sexually related or not). I’ll also add that I’ve seen individuals far older than me make worse decisions than most of my peers.
I don’t see a problem. She’s 21 and acting like it but since she’s a) female and b) openly bisexual, she seems to be catching more flak for it than a straight guy would.
I don’t think giving a fifteen year old hickeys is that bad either but I’ve never really cared much for laws governing sex amongst the consenting anyway.
I see where people have comment it she were a guy no one would think she was anything but a creep (well, I wouldn’t think that but that’s been the comments) but where has anyone given her more flak for being female and/or bi?
This one I have to disagree with. If it were a guy around here he’d prolly catch a black eye as well as universal scorn.Whereas people seem to be either titillated by or indifferent to her actions.
Those highlighted sections of your post are unneccesary except to draw attention to the fact that she’s bi and it seems to me that you were trying to draw undue attention to it.
Whistling at 15 year olds is fine. When I was 15 I loved thinking I was attractive to “adults”.
The hickeys I’m not sure about. For a 15 year old it’s like a badge of honor. They love getting “caught” with a hickey.
The fact that your friend “likes 'em young” is potentially creepy. Will she always like girls who are six years younger? Not a problem. Will she always like 15 year olds? That’s creepy. I guess in other words, does she like 'em younger, or young?
Man, if there were no people who liked 'em younger, I’d have never gotten laid my entire life. Well, except in high school.
No. Mentioning someone is bisexual in a question about their sexuality is perfectly normal and isn’t undue attention. Saying otherwise is being oversensitive.
And to the OP: yes, she’s pretty pervy. 15 and 21 just ain’t cool.
Wait, you’re accusing *me *of being oversensitive? That’s, well … I don’t even know where to begin so I won’t.
Betenoir, I think the post could have been made without the issue of her being bi pointed out. While I admit the second portion of the OP I highlighted is innocuous and didn’t deserve any comment, the first one just seemed too out there. Almost as if he were saying “and as if that wasn’t bad enough, she’s bi”.
I am not intending to attack the OP or anyone else in this thread by my comments… I am just stating my own opinions in regards to the situation and how the OP was worded. In retrospect, my own reply could have been worded better as well.
I freely admit that it is a double standard, but it is for this one practical reason: the 15 year old girl isn’t going to be impregnated by another female.
I am the mother of a 15 year old girl. What your friend is doing is wrong, creepy, and illegal. Perhaps your friend is going through a phase of ‘youthful exuberance’ in coming to terms with her sexuality. Maybe she’s testing limits. She can do what she wants with other 21 year olds. When it comes to minors, that’s a different ball game. A fifteen year old girl is a child. Society can be pretty harsh, and rightly so, on an adult who makes sexual advances to a child.
Not really, because people would be wondering “wtf, why is she whistling at teenage girls?” It also makes the distinction that apparently she’s not also doing this to teenage boys, even though she’s bi,
I wouldn’t call her “pervy” because it is natural to be attracted to people who are physically sexually mature. Because her behavior goes beyond mere attraction, however, she is definately innappropriate. I would say the same about a 21 year old of either sex or sexual persuasion behaving so to any 15 year old, BTW. Creepy and predatory.
I think its kind of messed up because she is in a position to get close to 15-year olds (since her size makes her possibly resemble someone of that age) and takes advantage of it.
Also, while I am confident most Dopers would exert common sense in this situation (which they have mostly demonstrated in this thread) I can’t help but be concerned that this would go under the radar for most people because she is a girl. I used to like a girl that was only 3 years younger than me, and I caught all kinds of flack for it. Gender stereotyping sucks.
I see where people have comment it she were a guy no one would think she was anything but a creep (well, I wouldn’t think that but that’s been the comments) but where has anyone given her more flak for being female and/or bi?