Is plastic surgery cheating?

I used to be vehemently opposed to elective plastic surgery, believing people should be happy with the body and face they where born with. Especially if you’re having children and are unaware of your partner’s true genetic makeup. I’ve often said that with my luck, I could marry Miss America and my daughters would take 100% after me!

I still don’t find breast augmentation attractive (I’m okay with reduction, especially for conditions like back pain), but since I’ve been watching a lot of Korean movies and TV lately, I’ve changed my mind about some facial plastic surgery, which a large number Korean celebrities undergo.

There’s a few celebrities, particularly Kpop idols who changed their facial features subtly, that changed their appearance from above average to extremely attractive. Given their goal is to entertain and please their fans, I’ve come to accept it’s okay in this case.

What are you thoughts?

BTW, before someone brings up the meme about a Chinese man divorcing his wife because she bore him ugly children, it’s been confirmed false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ugly-story/

Eh, it depends. Sometimes it works well. I just googled ‘breast augmentation before after’ (NSFW, obviously) and saw some examples that IMO resulted in a net improvement.

And what about braces to straighten teeth? I see no problem with that.

It can be argued either way. I’m not against it. For one close family member I discussed and suggested it, in all sincerity.

As for breast surgery, one good example is Simona Halep, tennis player and 2019 Women’s Wimbledon Champion. She had breast reduction done and she’s done very well afterwards.

Braces are fine as they don’t disguise the person’s genetic make up.

What on earth is that supposed to mean?

A while back, on a Korean variety show, when asked if she was always so pretty*, she replied “Yes” and said that all the boys in high school were after here. I was immediately attracted to her and began to search out her movie and TV dramas.

*Note: They didn’t ask if she had plastic surgery.

A few weeks later, a news story broke with her high school picture (she looked average at best) and she definitely had a good bit of plastic surgery. I haven’t gotten around to watching her movies and drams because I felt cheated. I would have been okay if she openly admitted to have plastic surgery, but unless I’m missing something, I don’t see boys lining after her.

To be fair, there were rumors before that she had plastic surgery (just about every Korean celebrity is suspect) and the high school pic could be fake (though never refuted). But people, please just be honest as it’s a plus to your personality score!

There’s no such thing as cheating.

In general, crooked teeth isn’t a genetic trait. :smiley:

Braces change the teeth in a way other than the way they had grown. Genetics are involved in many cases involving teeth. In that sense, braces absolutely “disguise” someone’s make up.

Plastic surgery is fine, just like tattoos, hair dye, and piercings. It’s your body, do what you like with it.

Is makeup cheating?

If you never show your partner your bare face? IMO, yes. Though it’s much easily reversible than plastic surgery.

And yes, I’ve known a couple of women that have never shown their husband their bare face.

This is an absurd hypothetical situation.

What if someone has sex change surgery (still plastic surgery in my book) and never tells their partner about their past?

What if someone has had an accident and the surgery erases any damage?

I specified in my OP that I only have an issue with elective surgery. And should have added restorative surgery (can’t think of everything! :p).

I’ve got some scarring on my legs due to years of not giving a fuck. I’ve also got visible veins because I’m over 40. Now add huge calves–the size of Popeye’s. My legs simply aren’t cute. No matter how many assurances I get from friends and family, I can’t see anything but big ugly appendages.

I’m not trying to woo a significant other with my gams. I am under no delusion that my legs are the only thing keeping me from being on the cover of Vogue magazine. And I am not so self-conscious that I hide them. Every day during the summer you can find me wearing a skirt or shorts. But still, if someone offered me a safe, affordable procedure that could transform my legs into something less cringy, I would seriously consider getting it done.

Just the other day I bought some make-up designed to mask leg imperfections. And let me tell you, it is transformative. I think I spent fifteen minutes just staring at my legs in sheer awe yesterday. I would probably lose my mind with joy if I had a permanent fix.

If make-up, which millions of people wear every day without giving it a second though, isn’t considered “cheating”, then plastic surgery shouldn’t be either.

I think that telling other people what they should do with their own bodies is gross and controlling, and find the idea that you get to decide how they should feel about any issues with their own bodies is simply absurd.

There would be MUCH bigger issues in that relationship, and truthfully, it would be impossible for someone to undergo gender reassignment and have a sex partner be unable to tell. If someone had ambiguous genitalia or was intersex, that might be easier to pass off.

Generally I couldn’t care less what surgery people do, with the exception that it seems to me that most Kpop performers who’ve had plastic surgery seem to be doing so in order to make themselves look more European, which is just sad (and not necessary more attractive).

Cheating who out of what?