All that would mean is changing a few words and adding some others. And perhaps a different choice of lubricants.
I agree with this. Young guys watch porn, but want to marry a decent and wholesome woman who also acts like Jenna Jameson in bed.
Porn gives these guys the idea that a woman should do anything and everything to please him no matter how disgusting or degrading. And when he gets married, he’s in for a real eye opener. 
Really, I have noticed the opposite, an increased acceptance that woman are sexual beings who are at equal with men in the younger generations.
Man, am I ever glad I saw porn starring a dominatrix before I got married; I knew exactly what marriage involves. 
I don’t know, does the woman think it’s degrading to her ? Then you probably shouldn’t do it. Unless she gets off on that shit.
Absolutes are for assholes.
I don’t know, really. I mean, if you’re talking about porn in the sense of man-on-man-on-man-on-man-on-woman, then yes, I daresay it doesn’t closely correlate with the modern couple’s experience in the bedchamber. I hope. Else fuck, but I’ve wasted my youth.
But if you’re talking about “simple” man-on-woman porn, then I’d say it has done a lot for relationships and household sex - be it acceptance of fellatio/cunnilingus and sodomy, or tolerance of toys and plays and so forth. I’d wager the average Joe’s and Jane’s life in the sack today is somewhat different, and dare I say more interesting, than it was back in the 30s.
And I absolutely believe it taught me, as a young man I no longer am, good habits. Things like going down on the woman sucking you off, or making sure the girl got off before you did. Or simply to put a wrapper on it (as mandated by French laws on porn).
Modern porn is a bit different in these regards, I suppose - I did notice a rising trend in humiliation and domination porn. But back in *my *day, it certainly was all about Eve.
I agree to a point, but it also brings up the “why won’t my wife agree to a 3 some with her best friend?” thoughts, and makes a man think that she’s a prude. Or she doesn’t like it if I come on her tits, so she doesn’t like ME?
Porn is fantasy, but I fear that young (males especially) people see it as how it is supposed to be in the bedroom instead of just a ridiculous fantasy.
de·grad·ing/diˈgrādiNG/
Adjective: Causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating.
No, porn does not do that, its society that does that to the actress for being in one. Generally, porn is just sexual activity that many people do but on film for others to enjoy viewing. Nothing degrading about sex in my eyes.
The overwhelming majority of pornography is made by men, for men.
Sorry, the Women’s Studies department got the grant. They already had the dildos.
Regards,
Shodan
The overwhelming majority of American Chinese Food is made by Mexicans for white people.
Probably, but the existence of exceptions makes your earlier absolute suspect. And a lot of that porn made made by men isn’t necessarily degrading to women. So “all porn degrades women” is just something that people who don’t like porn say because they don’t like porn.
Or maybe the wife is in for a real eye closer.
“He majored in Animal Husbandry, until they…caught him at it one day…”
I think porn is awesome, but I also think it’s good to have dialog about it.
I do think cultures can develop some unhealthy ideas about women- we all can see there is a difference between how culture treats women in Sweden versus in Saudi Arabia. And I do think that attitudes towards female sexuality are a big part of how cultures end up with those differences.
I’ve spent a lot of time around sex tourists in Asia. There is selection bias, as many sex tourists start out with some weird ideas about women. But i have seen how purchasing sex regularly can make those weird ideas even weirder. For example, sex tourists can get it in their head that every woman in a country is or should be available for them to have sex with, and I’ve seen guys get violently angry when non-working women have rejected them. It’s easy to develop a sense of entitlement, and to lose track of the fact that your “right” to purchase sex with money is also dependent on the other partner’s willingness to take part in that transaction.
Anyway, I think a lot of open dialog from different perspectives is the key. And I also think it’s important to teach young women to understand, appreciate, and take charge of their sexuality.
Possibly also why they have different attitudes towards porn.
ISTM that controlling sexuality, especially female sexuality, is a big part of some cultures. Those cultures are going to be threatened by depictions of unrestrained sexuality, even the ridiculous distortions of porn. Sure, on some level I am sure they would like to think they could have a sexual partner who was like fantasy, but then that creates the classic Madonna-whore complex - if she is willing to do that with me, how can I be sure she won’t do it with the pizza delivery guy? IYSWIM.
I can’t remember where I read it, but the writer described the attitudes in (I think it was) Afghanistan before the Taliban was ousted. They seemed to think that Westerners were these ueber-sex machines who would do anything at the drop of a hat. And that was both attractive, and frightening. Obviously there were multiple causes of this, but I wonder if some of it was from exposure to Western pornography, which is highly illegal but not necessarily unobtainable (these were students, IIRC).
But I can see how exposure to porn for someone with no real contact with real women can lead to distorted attitudes.
Same with porn, I don’t doubt.
I am resisting the urge to make a cheap joke, so instead I will ask how that happened?
Regards,
Shodan
Even a job in a “G” rated corporate world can be degrading
I agree with this, however, I fail to see how watching a gangbang movie contributes to this in any way. If anything it causes males to think differently: that women are there simply to do whatever it takes to please him in bed. Instead of a woman taking charge of her sexuality, she is now expected to behave like women in porn movies.
Well there may be some special cases like Taliban students who have never met a woman not related to them who have been exposed to Western porn, but for the most part, I think most guys know porn is a fantasy, not real. Like science fiction and other fantasies. They know the women are acting a role, however real the sex is. It’s not a difficult concept.
This was absolutely the case in many communities in India when I first lived there back in the '90s. The “A-rated” (for “adult”) movies restricted for extreme “Sexual Content” that the average Indian man could see in theaters (showings to which women were absolutely not admitted, of course) were all porn flicks from the Western world. This gave a lot of less-clueful Indian men the notion that Western women were all hussies.