Is someone else responsible for 9/11?

9/11 conspiracy

seems pretty good…but hey, you can manipulate anything to say anything these days…

At 1.3 hours long I haven’t been through all of it yet but so far I am not too impressed.

Early on the video mentions things like the unusual number of Put calls placed on the stocks of American and United airlines. I would find this telling IF they mentioned whether any other airlines had Put calls placed on their stocks and IF they told us who placed those orders (which should be a matter of public record). For all I know the airline industry was looking at some unfavorable economic information and loads of people were jumping in to make a buck.

At around 34:30 the video talks about how the WTC was dropped by bombs and not the planes. They become really disingenuous in this area I think. They make the claim that NO skyscraper besides the WTC towers and building #7 collapsed via fire. I admit building #7 collapsing seemed surprsing but the WTC towers is too easy to get passed. The construction of the towers was distinctly different than that of most skyscrapers in addition to them having a HUGE chunk of their outside supports cut by the plane crash (which none of the other examples had to deal with). The notion it was dropped by demolition charges beggars belief. The video mentions the south tower, which was hit second, falls first. They do not note that the plane hits much lower (leaving more weight above) and takes out a corner support. They then use math to show how fast things drop and suggest the tower dropped too fast for a collapse. If there were demolition charges would the tower not start collapsing from the base rather than the obvious drop starting at the top?

I will say the Pentagon attack still puzzles me and they do a fair job of pointing out some oddities I would not mind seeing explained (e.g. where is the plane…almost no pieces [among other inconsistencies]).

not this again…

There’ve been dozens of threads on this board refuting these claims. The planes hitting the towers was seen by thousadns of people. Most of the technical issues have been dealt with in other threads by people more competent than me in these matters. As far as the plane hitting the Pentagon, it disintegrated, as planes are wont to do when they hit the ground at high speed.

Well you could always try this thread form yesterday discussing exactly the same video. :wink:

I’m fairly certain that FDR had something to do with it. After allowing the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor he was struck by a premonition that the United States would be in dire need of war in the distant future. Knowing that his frail body could not last the duration of the war he faked his own death once victory was assured and had his body flash frozen using Mr Byrd’s wonderful freezing methods that ensured a fresh taste every time.

Medical technology having advanced since he was frozen during the war they, the Illuminati of course, revived him in 1990 and good 'ole FDR contacted long dormant agents known as the Men in Black in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia to begin Operation Take Down. The first attempt to destroy the WTC failed and he moved on to plan b, Take Down 2: Electric Boogaloo. This all ties back into the assassination of JFK by the motion pictures studio who wanted a fat govt. contract to build the sets for the fake moon landing but killed him because the man was serious about actually landing on the moon. Then…damn. My wife put my tinfoil hat back on.

Marc

For a WAG, that’s pretty close to the truth. As is often the case, Snopes is your friend

When an airplane fully loaded with fuel flies straight into a solid surface at full speed, and then burns on the ground for a while, you don’t find anything that looks like an airplane.

There were, however, many recognizable (though small and highly fragmented) pieces of airplane in and around the Pentagon after the crash.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

They tried to launch it from a treadmill, and consequently couldn’t get into the air.

Especially since videos clearly show that the towers did in fact collapse, and were not blown up. And collapsed from the crash site: it’s easily seen that the crash sites weakened, the upper floors fell on it, and the lower ones then crumpled under the impact.

I understand from the other thread that it is believed, even by cell phone companies, that cell phones won’t operate above 8,000’

I’d like to say, before it is brought up in this thread, that I have frequently used a cell phone above 10,000’.