Is there any actual evidence of this?
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What’s the difference between lasagna and pasticcio?
Sauce: Lasagna typically relies on tomato-based sauce, while pasticcio utilizes bechamel sauce, a mix of butter, flour, and milk. As one mention of bechamel. This is what our northern Italy friends make. The lasagna strips tend to be thinner.
Pastitsio is a Greek baked pasta dish that’s similar to lasagna. It’s made with ground meat, pasta, and béchamel sauce.
And back to topic, I’m convinced, no McRib for me - curiosity crushed.
No, in fact I showed a cite that said the opposite.
It’s obviously hyperbole, but there are two lines of evidence that McDonald’s “food” is mostly crap: (a) my taste buds, and (b) nutritional information. Some of the breakfast items are passable but not the greaseburgers and mediocre fries.
There are about half a dozen good burger places within a short distance of my house, but it’s always the McDonald’s that has big lineups at the drive-through. This doesn’t persuade me that it’s any good, it just makes me despair for the human race.
The nutritional info can say that eating too much of any fast food is bad for you- often too much sodium (but not in the sausage, oddly) . But McDs ingredientes are pure. The beef is really 100% beef, same as the pork, the eggs are eggs, ect. Too much fat and sodium, sure, but your statement was totally false.
Wow, a complete contradiction all wrapped up in one short sentence! 
So is horse shit.
I used to like them, but I think it’s just a vehicle for sour pickles, fat, onions and sweet BBQ sauce. The pork doesn’t really taste like pork BBQ. You could probably duplicate the thing with tempeh or seitan.
Can we have a moratorium on “I don’t eat at McDonald’s and all their food is substandard garbage not fit for human consumption” posts? It doesn’t really contribute anything to these type of threads and it feels on the level of dropping into a thread about a TV show to boast about how you don’t watch TV.
Nope. There is a HUGE and vast difference between- “eat too much of this, and it is bad for you” vs “the food is unsafe hygienically in any amount”.
It is threadshiting, IMHO.
But I reported one such post, and nothing happened.
Yeah - that’s what I envision when I hear “bechamel in lasagna” - JUST the bechamel (or more properly, besciamella). If it’s the sort that starts with that but has cheese added, it might be quite tolerable. Just don’t give me any of that spinach shit 
(I am firmly of the opinion that the use of spinach in things like lasagna and ravioli is a bad joke on the world, that somehow some people have been brainwashed into thinking is good).
McDs is cheap, fast and convenient. These are quite valuable attributes for certain use cases.
If I want to enjoy my food, I go to one of several better burger places nearby. If I want to refuel, and there’s a McDonald’s close by, I’m perfectly happy to inhale a burger there. The one time I ate at one recently, I needed some calories (and maybe a little protein)… and seriously considered going the extra 2 miles to a better place, but it was evening, and McDs was on the way, and I just needed something in my stomach. When we’re travelling, we prefer to find a local restaurant if we have the time, but if it’s a “pedal to the metal” day, McDs is predictable and generally well located.
We’re driving to Vermont next week. I won’t be surprised if I eat at least one meal at a McDs in one direction or the other. But I’ll skip the McRib!! And their chicken McNuggets are arguably the worst thing I’ve ever eaten. My kids loved them. We called them “buzzard bites”. I tried eating one and it was like a horrifying combination of gristle, cardboard and slime.
That also applies to some other burger joints, but certainly not all. In fact, considering the frequent lineups at the McD’s drive-through, some of the other places would be faster, and no more expensive. The only reason I see for McD’s popularity is very high name recognition, certainly not the product.
Among the quality big burger chains there are differences between the US and Canada. We do have Five Guys here (never tried 'em) but the common consensus is that among the big chains here Harvey’s is probably the best. It’s less convenient than McD’s because the burgers are made to order, flame-grilled after you order, and then you tell them what you want on it from a large assortment of stuff. It’s the closest I can come to a homemade burger off the outdoor grill, the difference being that the homemade ones have thicker and better quality patties. Nothing from McD’s can come within a mile of either.
But I get your point. Out in the middle of nowhere where there’s no other recognizable source for a quick meal, McD’s is reliably mediocre, and mediocre is better than “bad”. I admit that I drop in there every once in a while just for something different, but no more than once or twice a year.
I agree! I love lasagna
They were better before they started franchising. I used to live a couple of blocks from their original location, which no longer exists.
Of course not. This is Cafe Society, where slandering food (or music, or entertainment) you don’t like is de rigueur.
Typically, the bechamel has a little nutmeg and white pepper, but does not have cheese melted into it, but rather sprinkled on top when assembling.
I was not a fan of lasagna until I had the Northern Italian version with bechamel and homemade fresh spinach colored pasta sheets. My experience in Europe is that Italian there outside Italy is typically northern fare, while in America it’s southern and Sicilian.
And McDonalds is tasty, I don’t care what anyone says. When I lost 40 lbs 15 years ago, my diet included a McDouble for lunch most every day. It was cheap ($1.50 IIRC, or maybe $1), 420 calories, a basic macronutrient balance I was looking for, and that protein and fat kept me sated into a more vegetable filled dinner. No fries, no soda with that, just water.
I won’t even eat the current quarter pounder because it tastes like a regular burger, being made fresh. When I go to McD’s I want their particular taste.
I’ve tried the McRib twice. Once out of curiosity and the second time because a group of friends assured me that I MUST have gotten a bad one the first time.
Nope, still disgusting. And not just “not to my taste” but actively, horrifyingly, bad. It must fall into the category of “things I can taste that other people can’t.” (There are a few.) The McRib tastes to me like a seething froth of cleaning chemicals, with a burnt carbon aftertaste.
Please don’t eat that.
Oh, I don’t eat the McRib. It’s father up in the thread, but I’m not a fan. Not quite the visceral reaction you have — I could get largely the same thing at a Speedway year round — and while I wouldn’t turn a free one away, I’ll buy something else. It’s like a 3/10 for me.
I do get the occasional yen for a quarter pounder with cheese though. . . in a Homer Simpson kind of way. It’s not that I think it’s food; it just tastes good.