On the reverse ageism, I had a Boomer Boss who would, right to an employee’s face, say “Well, as one of those Gen-X slackers, you’re going to take longer to learn to work hard.”
Couldn’t believe it! I told the kid “Whoa… Hey, at least you’'re not a lazy beaner welfare chiseler stoner Gen-X slacker.”
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Sorry, but sounds like you’re secretly a boomer…
I’m another 83er but I feel the opposite I have a lot more in common with the millennials then with genX primarily because I missed the dotcom bubble.
I grew up with a computer and I had internet starting in 6th or 7th grade. That decade of no internet is very minor in my life. And sure we had payphones while I was in high school and I didn’t have a cell phone but I also got an iPhone 1 shortly after release and have had a smart phone for more than a third of my life. While 9/11 was an unimportant blip in 2001 for me the follow on effects of the war in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as the patriot act and other security theater have had huge effects on my entire adult life.
My biggest problem with the baby boomers is they just won’t retire. I was told when I graduated that once the baby boomers retired there would be room for tons of upward mobility and they would be retiring any year now. Then 2008 happened and now covid so we have millions of late 60 year olds that are refusing to retire. This is preventing many of my friends from taking over the positions that boomers took over much earlier in their career. I know a lot of boomers that have been in the lower management positions for 30+ years and are refusing to retire so millenials will never have the earning opportunity from holding that position for so long. Personally, I got out and moved to an industry where there are no boomers and Gen x are the old men so there is a lot more room to carve my own niche.
A lot of it is by necessity. The Boomers were in the midst of the job market in the 90s and maybe the 80s when the gutting of pension funds really kicked into high gear. If they could afford to invest in the stock market they would have been well off but not everyone was able to do that even if they wanted to. And Social Security is only barely enough to live on in most places: in order to have any spending money without a retirement account you need to work.
Sure and like and I said they also had large hits to their retirements right at the end. But that does mean they are holding on and preventing the younger generation from replacing them which is hurting the younger generation’s earning potential. I think it’s a legitimate complaint that they previously had better earning potential and now they are preventing those earning opportunities from passing to the next generation. I’d be ok of a forced retirement of everyone over 60 (from politics as well).
And I suppose you will feed and house those Boomers who are in the “can’t retire” position?
Or put them on an ice flow - same difference.
If they don’t have a right to continue to have a living income, then neither is the next generation entitled to a rise in earning potential.
You realize that their “normal social security retirement age” is 67, right?
Fair. It’s been pretty clear for a while that the majority of people in the boomer demographics are primarily concerned with themselves
66 and 2 months is average for boomers and they can start taking it as early as 62. Does me saying forced retirement at 62 make you feel better? Most boomers should be long retired.
not unless you want to give them normal retirement benefits at that age.
And that’s different from the majority of people in every other demographic how?
Here’s a compromise: Hospitals and universities often require employees to step down from leadership roles at 65, but allow them to continue treating patients and/or teaching students as long as they want to and are capable of doing so. That’s a model that might be useful in a lot of industries, too. And it’s a little less draconian than ice floes for those in their 60s.
If I retired, my employees would be unemployed.
And when you die they’ll be unemployed. Sounds like you’ve done a poor job of succession planning. Hopefully they are looking for new jobs and can get out before you kick the bucket.
It’s not. I could say I’m primarily concerned for my kids (and I am) but across the board it’s more about preventing yourself from being screwed. It’s just the Boomers are currently doing most of the screwing (including of themselves)
My wife is dealing with this right now two boomer/silent generation professors who have done no succession planning for their department and insist they will work forever so none is needed. The division head brought in my wife from industry to push them aside and do the succession planning for them.
I agree that destroying the accumulate knowledge to the Boomers is a terrible idea. Forcing them into advisory roles to pass along their knowledge while allowing others opportunities to lead is a great idea too bad there is no way to implement it.
She is working with someone over…2021-1948 = 73 who hasn’t thought about succession planning? That sounds really irresponsible.
One is mid 70s and the other is mid 60s. They may both be boomers. But yes they are both insisting they have more than a decade left of working so it doesn’t matter who’s taking over for them right now.
There used to be a third one of them who retired at 78 about 5 years ago but he is still heavily involved. There is no one else in the department since the last division head was trying to kill the department.
I’m assuming you meant generations are this, not Millennials or other youth.
Don’t bother, I’ve already been pushed out onto that ice floe.
’ Fuckin boomers and their global warming! Now there ain’t no ice flows to push ‘em out on to 
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Person born one year after the ‘boomer’ cutoff
The earlier you take it the less you have each month to live on. I stated taking SS at 67 and I’m trying to live on $938 a month after federal taxes. Does even less than that a month for retiring early at 62 sound fair or even possible to you?
Coming out of college in 1972 not that many jobs had robust or even stable pension or retirement plans, unlike our ‘greatest generation’ parents had.
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don’t criticize
What you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin’
Please get out of the new one
If you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’
Yes. please. I meant the whole poorly defined and inconsistent generations thing.