Is the term 'Boomer' just ordinary ageism now?

Plus also there’s immigration on top of births and most immigrants to the US over the last 30 years would not be boomers.

Dude, my generation is getting old fast and retiring. Your generation is already taking over. From this point forward, as each day goes by, you become more and more responsible for all the problems. Time to stop complaining, time to stand up and take responsibility for your parent’s mistakes just the way we had to.

I resent being described that way.

The fuck it isn’t. How do you account for social progress if this were the case? Where Americans born in 1770 just as enlightened as Americans born in 1970? Shit, my own grandma (RIP) said she didn’t like black people and my dad would excuse it by saying it’s just her age.

Modhat: This thread has stopped being about the Op a while ago. Too long ago to do anything about. I’m going to push it into the pit as it already seems to be heated up too much.

But that’s not an excuse to use a name for a group of people as a pejorative. (Not that I know your opinion on that, just responding to those who think that old self-disowned Chris Rock routine applies to boomers but not Black people.)

Plenty of people on this board use “Russian” as a pejorative and I have not seen anybody care. Cry me a river.

I posted the following about a year ago in a thread that was asking why we old geezers get stimulus checks:

Wow, a lot wrong with that statement.

Whales: Many generations contributed to this. Not just Boomers. Got started earlier than you think.

Civil Rights: well Gen X didn’t help as we weren’t born for the most part. But the leaders for Civil Rights pretty much pre-date Boomers. But Boomers did do a lot on this issue at least.

Red Woods: Honestly don’t know enough about it, but I feel like it got its start all the way back to John Muir & Theodore Roosevelt. It predates WWII for sure which means it predates Boomers.

Marched for Peace: Very successful too, we were out after what only 12 years in 1975?

Why the fuck are there still confederate statues everywhere and why the fuck are the nazis back if you guys fixed everything?

Yeah, “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." Things change. People and societies progress. There are still boomers who don’t like black people There are boomers who do. What does it mean to say “boomers have been in control of this country?” It means nothing. Yes, we are influenced by the time we grew up in, but we’re also influenced by a 1000 other things. My daughter is a teacher, is that because she’s Generation Whatever? (I honestly don’t know who is what, other than the post-war baby boom generation).

I fail to see the logic behind saying that calling people Boomers as a slur is different in type rather than level from calling bad Black people n*****.

With regards to “Russian”, that may be true in spirit but not in actuality. Plenty of people here make disparagements about Republican’s closeness to Putin, but plenty of people don’t use the term “Russian” by itself with no other qualifier as a pejorative. Just like there were plenty of people here who called Bush a Nazi, but didn’t actually use the term “Bushitler” as was repeatedly alleged.

I don’t know why people are taking this personally; I’m talking about group dynamics, not individuals.

I notice that you’re happy to extol what you see as your generation’s virtues but you don’t seem to want to discuss any possible shortcomings.

I’ve read those books and I thought that the evidence and arguments presented in them was clear and very convincing. As I said, there was a confluence of events and circumstances that was the start of the Boomer generation and that setting of rapidly advancing technology, international economics, etc. eventually became the Boomer’s reality, as they began to have influence beyond that of mere consumerism; i.e. when they began to control more of the flow of money and politics, that we’re all still living in today.

True, we didn’t finish the job, but we expected the next generation to take up the fight instead of playing video games.

And don’t forget, if not for Boomers you’d be listening to Pat Boone. Instead you get to rediscover our music, which is way, way, way better than anything your generation ever produced.

Who the fuck is saying anyone finished the job? It’s a strawman.

The point is only that previous generations achieved worthwhile progress towards the very goals that kids decry them for not achieving.

Oh bullshit. People are pointing out the achievements of earlier generations because you are generalising to the contrary.

As to the book you read, no one ever went broke playing into common misperceptions so I’d be sceptical. And there’s nothing about your posts in this thread that suggests to me that you read it with a critical eye.

Your posts ooze entitlement right along with indignation. “How DARE you!” is the tone of your posts.

It is true that my generation will have a brief period where the suns shines brightly on us. But that will soon pass as we are eclipsed by the much larger pre- and Millenial generations.

I got to say, worrying about generations is crazy in all honesty. Who cares. I’m just barely a GenXer. My wife is just barely a Boomer.

It all seems very arbitrary. My music & TV skews Boomer but I grew up with computers and video games. I’m trying to plan for retirement already so I have that in common with Boomers.

Boomers are far from monolithic and GenXers are far from monolithic.

#NotAllBoomers

With the oldest of us now 74, we Boomers will begin dying off at a rate of a million or two yearly, increasing to close to four million annually in another decade and a half.

Meanwhile, an additional four million young, diverse people become voter eligible every year. Which is why I tailor my political messages to the Millennials and Zoomers, in the hope that they will guide the nation to a progressive and enlightened future, bypassing the execrable Gen Xers altogether in the process.