It’s probably got a lot more with Schumer actually being able to affect things while Pelosi can’t.
Eh. Maybe ‘Cuck Schumer’ will get more wingnut mentions for a time, but the vitriol won’t be the same.
A good test of this will be how many GOP candidates try to tie their opponents to Pelosi, and how many try to tie their opponents to Schumer. By this metric, I’m predicting a Pelosi landslide.
Well, 435 House races vs 30-odd Senate races, so … yeah, that wouldn’t exactly be a surprise either.
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No, you don’t, but don’t change. We like you just the way you are. 
Elections have consequences. Election RESULTS speak for themselves. Pre-election poll numbers, political party estimates, pundit babbling, internet comments, lame stream news media biased reporting can be very entertaining, but they don’t replace actual vote tallies when it comes to actually electing representatives.
If you find that you are the least bit confused about how some, or all, bills are being passed, I’ll suggest that your all-encompassing “We” do not know how conservative voters actually think. You’re just used to telling each other how conservatives think, and then accept that as fact. Keep up the good work.
Odd. Calling him that is calling him an Aryan.
So, you were expecting intellectual consistency from alt-righters?
I don’t really have an answer. All I know is that conservatives have this deep-rooted hatred of Liberals and Democrats that defies all reason and logic. For example:
-Liberals propose legislation to promote equal treatment of minorities, gays, women, etc. Conservatives accuse them of being bigots and racists trying to trample on people’s rights.
-Liberals propose legislation to curb the power and excesses of Big Business. Conservatives accuse them of socialist wealth redistribution policies.
-Liberals propose more restrictive firearms laws after a mass shooting. Conservatives double down on more guns.
-Liberals tell Conservatives to stop acting like jerks. Conservatives complain that their rights to be a jerk to other people are being trampled.
Yes, but they don’t like being told that.
What they like being told is that the economy sucked under Obama but took off under Trump, even though we experienced sustained job growth from 2010 - 2016 under Obama and a bit less job growth under Trumps first year.
In a way, it’s a bit like sport’s team mentality. It doesn’t matter how many Super Bowls Tom Brady wins. Giants fans will always hate him.
I understand how conservative voters think - I’m surrounded by them.
Conservative voters hate and fear their opponents. That’s what drives them - things that allow them to recognize and blame an enemy. That is ALL that drives them.
Abortion is bad because they kill babies.
Immigrants are bad because they take jobs.
Blacks are bad because they commit crimes.
The poor are bad because they loaf around on our tax dollars.
Muslims are bad because they blow stuff up.
Atheists are bad because they worship satan.
Drugs are bad because they make people go crazy.
Gay people are bad because they want to destroy marriage/rape everyone.
SJWs are bad because they want to take away our rights and power.
Gun grabbers are bad because they want to leave me defenseless.
That’s what it’s all about.
(Note: Republican politicians, traditionally, have shared very few of these fears, and were just in it for the money and to support their rich donors. It seems that some of the inmates have ascended to positions within the administration, however.)
In almost every case that I’ve seen a Doper express sentiments along these lines, what follows is something totally at odds with my personal experience and the views of most conservatives I know.
At root I think it is tribalism. But I don’t think there is an answer for it. They consider liberals as controlling interlopers, liberals consider them crazy, immoral assholes.
There probably is no answer.
I don’t consider them crazy, immoral assholes. I consider them fucked-up, immoral, unethical assholes. (There are an extremely rare few who are unfucked/moral/ethical.)
But then I’m not technically a liberal…
Military spending is quite popular and that’s a GOP go-to.
I think that’s accurate. With the following additions:
Big (non-Conservative) government is bad because they take all your stuff and give it to the other people on that list.
Other countries are bad because they are shitholes who don’t embrace freedom like America.
Environmentalists are bad because they want us to live like dirty people in shithole countries.
New York is bad because someone was murdered there a few years back and they never found out who did it. Also it’s full of homos.
Hollywood is bad because it’s full of rich liberals who think we’re all dumb hicks, sermonize at us, and then go back to their mansions to snort coke off a prostitute’s ass.
Also, don’t forget what they like:
Business is good because it gives hard working people jobs and makes the hardest working people rich.
God is good because he is God.
The plan to reduce illegal immigration, end legal chain immigration, end the lottery system for immigration, and to grant some kind of amnesty for DACA recipients but not for the parents who illegally dragged them as children across a hostile desert, all remain popular with the vast majority of the American public.
Curbing legal immigration is also popular: 81% of the American population wants legal immigration cut from its current level of about 1 million, and a strong majority (63%) want it cut by at least half.
60% don’t support the parents of DACA kids being given amnesty, as the Durbin-Graham plan calls for.
65% of voters would support some kind of DACA deal that secures the border with Mexico, ends Chain Migration, and eliminates the Visa Lottery. Majorities of voters from nearly every demographic would support that plan, including 68% of Hispanic voters, 64% of African American voters, 64% of Democratic voters, 67% of all independent voters, 63% of liberal voters, and 68% of those who voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election cycle.
Support for the new Republican tax plan is rising sharply, and should continue to rise as workers open their paycheck envelopes in February.
The latest New York Times/Survey Monkey poll shows support for the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act rising to 46 percent, with 49 percent disapproving.
Per Politco’s tracking poll, conducted Jan. 11-16 2018, a 45 percent plurality of voters backed the plan based on what they knew about it, up from 42 percent in a similar poll before the legislation was enacted on Dec. 22. Opposition in the new poll came in at 34 percent, down from 39 percent. Twenty percent of respondents were undecided, up from 18 percent. After respondents were told about the major provisions of the bill, support rose to 47 percent, opposition remained at 34 percent.
More than half of Americans in a CBS News Poll approve of Trump’s handling of the war against ISIS as of April (not sure if there is a later one). The situation has materially improved since then, so I would expect that to go up.
Here is a CNN poll from a few weeks ago:
And this bit serves to illustrate that polls are heavily influenced by partisan leanings:
Like thinking Timmy McVeigh’s murderous actions were completely unreasonable?
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This is the second time you’ve brought this up unrelated to the thread topic. If you do it again I will give you a warning for harassment. Knock it off.
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Heh no partisanship going on among Republicans… :rolleyes:
Notice how Democratic opinions dropped by a whole 11% while Republicans’ jumped by 50%. Tell me again about partisanship.
Well, the war with ISIS actually did improve so at least the Republican direction lined up with reality.