Is there any truth regarding the innuendo surrounding Trump and Ivanka?

It could be something like how those Indian villagers wear masks on the back of their heads to deter tigers from sneaking up on them. If you were walking through the hood with shades on backwards, you’d just look like another cool jivester moonwalking down the sidewalk.

And you were handing out the diplomas.

ETA: That was intended for pleks

Diplomas for the one guy who believes he got monies worth?

Aaaaand he’s gone. But I’m sure those of us who knew him will never forget the valuable contribution made to this board by whatshisname.

I am almost sure this is nuts, however it’s what I intuit. It’s hard to believe, but Mr. Trump is a student of Jungian psychology, and he attributes his success to his Jungian understanding more than to any other factor (I read this in his “How to Get Rich”). I am also a student, and from that study I understand how powerful the romantic attraction for a daughter can be. It’s normally unconscious, but it can become conscious, and acceptable, with understanding. (I don’t have any kids, by the way.) I hypothesized that the driving force behind Trump’s amazing and exalted political accomplishment was the quest to elevate himself to a place deserving of Ivanka’s romantic reciprocation. Just being a billionaire business big shot was not enough. Other momentous world events have had as ignoble a spark.

I have a young daughter and IMHO the above is creepy as fuck.

What’s your source for Trump’s interest in Jung? Googling the names produced a couple of Jungian explanations for Trump–but no indication of any “study.”

I’ve spent some time reading Old Man Jung–I like that myth & legend stuff & he could spin a yearn. But Trump is famous for Not Reading Books. Oh, one of “his” books mentioned Jung? He’s also famous for Not Writing Books.

Back to the OP: I doubt Trump has done anything to Ivanka. But his classless remarks about her just reveal another layer of his deeply trashy character.

Not shocking certainly. But the lap dance one is a tad too much, don’t you think? Also the one where he’s grabbing her boobs in the biker pic and the one with his hand on her ass.

The bad hair stuff and even the see-through top are meh.

Heh. Orange trash.

There is no evidence that Jungian psychology is any more accurate in describing the real world than is Greek mythology.

Bridget, while his books were largely ghosted, I don’t believe a ghost would make up a bunch of first person narrative ostensibly from Trump about the particulars of what he derived from Carl Jung. The chapter was entitled something about Carl Jung. As I mentioned, it was in his “How to Get Rich” book.

Incidentally, I happened to read it only because a retired cosmetic dentist for the rich and famous in Palm Beach, who my wife and I rent our winter oceanfront condo from, had Trump for a patient in his practice. He knows Trump and had that book on one of his book shelves, so for the heck of it I read it. It impressed more than I would have thought.

For heaven’s sake, you must know, or you wouldn’t have used that example, Greek mythology and Jung’s archetypes are largely one in the same thing. Both very much describe the real world, just ask Joe Campbell, if you can reach him in the after life.

Oh, I’m not saying anything about any other pictures than the green hair. That one’s okay. Some of the others are creepy.

If we want to really use fictional heroes as examples, Conan just handled his business personally instead of tweeting about it, and he didn’t “have people” to do it for him.

Conan would spit on him.

Why not? I know a ghost writer (not Trump’s); writing first-person narratives to make the subject sound smarter and more eloquent is what they do. And given the quality of the material we know Trump writes personally (and given the reports of some of his ghost writers), I have a very hard time believing he’s capable of producing a coherent narrative about “what he derived from Carl Jung” on his own.

Oh, because a penchant for Jung is esoteric and ou·tré. Advocacy for something more masculine and regular, like the Power of Positive Thinking, or some such, might play better, I would think, unless Trump really did find value in Jung. And, as I said, understanding of archetypes could unencumber the way to appreciating one’s daughter romantically, if he does. But so could psychopathy, and of course I don’t know.

No - it’s because coherent and well-articulated introspection is not something Donald Trump is personally capable of. I tend not to care much about what’s “outré”.

You seem to suggest in this and your previous posts that to “unencumber the way to appreciating one’s daughter romantically” is a positive thing. Is that your view, or are you just waxing theoretical here?

Even if Trump has never studied the works of Jung, he embodies those traits. Because, of course, he is Jung at heart.

I’ll show myself out.

Personally, I think he’s Jung like a sea horse.

I think it would be a positive thing if the participants wanted it, and the daughter was an adult; but it wouldn’t work for most people, and most of them wouldn’t seek it. For a special few, I could see it being more rewarding than a non-familial heterosexual relationship, because it would in most cases be more intimate. And if one’s daughter looked like Ivanka, the odds of it being a good idea would be upped, at least for the father.