Is this acceptable? Or is it akin to "cradle-snatching"?

I wasn’t sure whether to post this in MPSIMS or IMHO. On the one hand, it is Mundane and Pointless, and I’m definitely writing in part because I Must Share. However, I’m definitely asking for Opinions, so here goes:

The Setup

A few weeks ago, I attended a dance sponsored by my current university’s Indian association, and was lucky enough to find myself dancing with a rather cute girl. We danced for a while, and it certainly seemed that she was interested in me. Given my general lack of observational skills, I figured that this was a fairly important development. However, the night comes to an end, and, dragged by my brother, I leave the dance… without having gotten her name! (stupid stupid stupid).

Act Two

After agonizing for quite a while about my utter lack of, for want of a better term, balls at the dance, I found myself, inexplicably, with a second chance. Last weekend, the Indian association here put on a cultural program, and, being cultural, I attended. To my surprise, the girl from the dance was there - she was one of the stage hands (wearing form-fitting black clothes - did I mention that she was cute?). And, miraculously, she actually remembered who I was, or at least, recognized me and waved.

After the show, I went to the after-party (the Indian association also being filled with good partiers). And, as you probably guessed, saw her there. This time, I wasn’t quite so shy, and I found out her name. And that she was a sophomore here.

The Problem

I’m a first year grad student.

The Kicker

But I’m only 20. She is most likely around 6 months younger than I.

The Discussion

So I talked to one of my best friends about this. Her response was something along the lines of “You’re robbing the cradle, man.” When I noted the actual probable age difference, she said that the age wasn’t the important thing. I’m a grad student, having gone through my four years of undergrad life - I’ve had a lot more in the way of life experiences than she (the Girl) has. In that sense (according to my friend), we’re not at the same level, and that makes it vaguely creepy.

My response to this is that, my educational level notwithstanding, my age actually is fairly important. For example, I still can’t drink, can’t go to bars, etc. So one can’t consider my four years of college experience exactly the same as Joe Schmoe’s. I think that the closeness in age cancels out any possibly creepiness.

This led to a discussion of why exactly the grad-student/sophomore thing was creepy, in light of my age. Basically, it boiled down to “well, it’s counter to societal norms,” and that makes things bad. To which my response was: “So I basically have two options: date people that are my age, in which case the educational difference runs counter to societal norms, or date people who are also grad students, who range in age from 2-6 years older than I, which is also kinda weird - at least for me, since I haven’t had much dating experience.” Since my only options then, involve violating one norm or another, I chose to say “screw it” to norms in general.

The Question(s)

So my question to the teeming millions is really twofold:

  1. Do you think I have a shot with the Girl? After finding out her name, etc, I went to talk to a friend of mine for a while, and then was unable to find her, which means I don’t know when I’ll see her again (stupid stupid stupid).

  2. Given that I’ve already decided that I’m interested, is this weird/creepy? Recalling the fact that I’m probably TAing for some of her friends, etc, to put the educational gap in perspective.

I dunno, and so, I turn to all of you.

Do I understand correctly that there is a 6 month age difference between you two? You might be interested in this thread. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143096

is your best friend desi?

chula: I’m not sure if the age difference is 6 months. But given that I should have been a Junior, and that even then I would have been fairly young for my age (being born in August), I theorize that she’s probably about 6 months younger than me. But it’s obviously not the age difference that’s the problem - that’s really the countervailing situation to the grad-student/undergrad thing.

cherry: That she is. Is it that obvious?

  1. I have no idea if you have a shot with her or not.

  2. I can’t see how a six month age difference could be ‘cradle-snatching’, especially as you are both attending university. It’s not like she is still at high school.

  • Bubba.

I personally don’t see any problems with it. 6 months difference is not much and as to the school difference… I don’t see much problem there either. You ARE both in college after all.

Personally I’d rather date someone who is nice to me, and not worry about those differences unless they cause actual problems in the relationship. But you have to get into that relationship first, so I hope you run into her again and get together.

Robbing the cradle is like when a 60 year old man dates a 20 year old girl. You’re both University students. What level you both are is completely irrelevant.

foxyboxer: Yeah, I suppose a better question would be “Should I go for it,” but I think I’ve already decided that the answer to that is “yes.”

And yes, I agree that it’s not cradle snatching - but I can see why there might be one of those “life experience” differences between someone who has been in college for going on his fifth year, vs someone who has been in college for just more than one, and I dunno if that’s weird, or not. Not to mention that it’s more than “fifth year senior” vs. “sophomore.” As a grad student, I feel, at least, that there’s a different authority level that I’ve been entrusted with - being a TA, acting as a go-between for professors and undergrads, etc, and I dunno if that would make things weird.

  1. Yeah, but don’t let your third chance slip out of your fingers.

  2. I don’t see anything weird about it, so long as you are not in a position of power over her. Your having three years more undergrad experience than she has is only one aspect of things. She’s been alive nearly as long as you, and she’s no doubt had experiences you haven’t had. My opinion? Screw “societal norms.”

IIRC, I believe that it is a not uncommon occurance for grad students to wind up marrying their advisors. In those situations there is likely to be a much greater age difference than any possible difference between you and that girl. Regardless it is not uncommon for people anywhere to date people within two years or so of their age.

So, we’ve established that it is not uncommon for people of different education levels to date. We’ve also established that it is not uncommon for people with close, if not identical, ages to date.

Go for it. If you don’t I’m gonna find out where you live, show up and give you a noogie.

6 months? you have got to be kidding me. you two were probably born in the same year. now if you were 20 and she were 6 years your junior, that may be a different story.

OF: Yeah, I think there’s a chance I’ll see her again this weekend - who knows.

Gary T: Hehe - given my history of things, there’s a damn good chance that I’ll wind up letting the third chance slip away, despite knowing that it’s pivotal. I’m the kind of guy who stands there thinking: “I should go introduce myself”… “I really should go up to her and say hi”… “That’s it, I’m going up there right now to talk to her” and then, when the night is over, I will have found myself still standing there.

In general, I was pretty sure that it was no big deal to go after the Girl, except that talking to my friend placed some doubts in my mind.

Sounds like you have the makings of a wonderful relationship. Heck, my Dad secretly dated my mom when he was 26 and she was 16 (she lied about her age). Now he’s 80 and she’s 70. Have fun.

I’d say it’s OK. I knew a guy in college who was six days younger than me, but he was a senior when I was a freshman. His girlfriend (from back home–she eventually came to the same school with us) was a year younger than us, and no one batted an eye about it. He just happened to be a mega-brain :).

If she doesn’t have a problem with you being in grad school, I don’t know why anyone else would. Go for it!

My aren’t you sounding important. Uh, unless you’re walking around town with a big neon flashing sign attached to yourself saying “GRAD STUDENT” who cares?

You’re worried about stations now while in college, I’d hate to see you outside of college life in the big bad world with women who <gasp> work for a living and <gas[> might make more money that you. EEKS

Relax. Tell your friend to relax. You’re both students. You’re both about the same age. I fail to see the scandal here.

I think this is the weirdest non-problem I’ve seen in a while.

Mr P is 11 years older than me. Things are just fine. I’m certain if we had met while I was in uni and he was working, it still would be fine.

The friend has a bizarre take on life. Ignore him

Oh, piss off.

As for the OP, don’t worry about a thing. Life’s too short to mess around with trivial details like this, given the whole of the situation. Go get her!

I’m in the ??? what problem? camp. You have different “life experiences” than this girl? You will have different life experiences with any girl you meet. As long as she has reached the legal age where you are located, usually 17 or 18, there is no problem.

Do you have a shot with this girl? Not if you don’t get a little confidence up and ask her out. Which brings us back to the question of “life experiences” once again. My WAG is that she’s way ahead of you in the some areas.

I don’t mean to sound harsh, but you’ve probably got some catching up to do if you’re going to match a typical college sophomore in the human relationship area of “life experiences”. IE: Never let some friend’s (possibly) well-meaning but weird advice discourage you from getting a girl’s phone number!

Good luck.

I want to ask this one girl out, but she only just broke up with her last boyfriend eight years ago, and they’d been going out for over a month!

:wink:

There’s a problem here? Go for it. Hell, I’m MARRYING a man who is considerably older than me, and we couldn’t be happier – you aren’t in high school, and as long as she isn’t, no problem!