And it also matters who it is too late for. As a straight white male who could pass as christian, it will be too late for my minority or LGBTQ+ neighbors long before it’s too late for me.
I see that as why some people aren’t that concerned. They will finally agree that fascism has come to the US when they see other people being marched off to camps. When you are or care about those other people, being a bit more proactive is important.
The people who actually pushed for the war wanted to conquer the Middle East and gain control of its resources. They wouldn’t have stopped with Iraq if it was successful. W was a perfect cheerleader.
I was going to edit this into my earlier post, the redefinition of persecuted groups broadly enough that it doesn’t apply.
LGBTQ+ people are getting the shit kicked out of them, but to Saint Cad this doesn’t count because “all liberals are not being sent to concentration camps”. This will be elided as states’ rights or some rot.
and nobody (in politics or mainstream media) bats an eye about the migrant detention facilities or the US prison system at large. Many individuals and groups do of course but they don’t hold the microphone.
Posting this again in this thread.
To be clear, Homland Security is warning minorities of potential terror threats. Is that like pre-Nazi Germany?
Nice.
It hasn’t been the same since Chevy left 
That water sure is getting warm, but not hot enough to have to jump.
This isn’t even a slight exaggeration:
Stranger
I’d like to add Lawrence Britt’s 14 Characteristics of Fascism here, from “Fascism, Anyone?”
The point NOT being to open the definitional debate, but to maybe frame the conversation, and to let some of us play FASCIST BINGO, The Home EditionTM
playing a binary yes/no bingo might be difficult since all of these have been present to varying degree throughout American history. Like, by these definitions, they seemed most present during the Bush presidency. They actually stole an election or two.
Totally agree. The way I view the utility of such a list is to assess which of the elements might be on the rise in a given society at a given time.
Pardoned by whom and for what?
None of the Paperclip scientists were convicted of any crimes in the U.S. or Germany.
“Several of the Paperclip scientists were later investigated because of their links with the Nazi Party during the war. Only one Paperclip scientist, Georg Rickhey, was formally tried for any crime, and no Paperclip scientist was found guilty of any crime, in the United States or Germany. Rickhey was returned to Germany in 1947 to stand at the Dora Trial, where he was acquitted.[42]”
And we can consider ourselves lucky. So many things almost went wrong! Circumstances helped, like they helped Germany with the unification. It sometimes happens, mostly not.
He is still dead.
Still nice to write it. 
Bears repeating.
He is still dead.
Or above. Either way, what is the problem with the company name, @Pardel-Lux ?
The OP isn’t saying that. A country doesn’t turn into Nazi Germany overnight by flipping a switch. It takes several years of preparation to turn a normal country into Nazi Germany (as it did in Germany).
What the OP is asking is whether the United States is currently in the midst of those preparations.
Wait a second, isn’t that the revised edition’s concensus about Earth? Shouldn’t we be worried about the portion that isn’t harmless?
You know, we have the OP’s impression of the county they live in and we have Crafter Man’s impression of the county he lives in. And he posits that his is much closer to the reality of living in America (an enlightened Ohio–what a concept). Perhaps we should look a little more closely–a quick & dirty statistical examination–to provide some context for their observations.
. OP’s Land Crafter Man’s Land
Pop. 40,881 38,714
Whites 84% 96%
Blacks 0.3% 2%
Nat. Am. 8% –
Med. Age 45 37
Med HH Inc $57k. $59k
In Poverty 10% 8%
'20 Trump win 67-31% 73-25%
Voted Dem in
Last 100 Yrs. 5x 2x
So, it seems, the two counties have many similarities but that the Wisconsin county is vaguely less Red (and less white) than the deep Red of the Ohio county.
And yet, the OP looks out their window and is afraid; while Crafter Man looks out and sees this is the best of all possible worlds. I don’t think it is difficult to determine which one is operating under delusions of the world we live in. Unless Crafter Man has a note from his doctor specifically requiring mind-altering drugs, he should step back from Fox News, post less here, and listen to The Residents more. It might improve his vision of the world outside the door and save him from becoming a freak off the midway if he should ever wander too far from home.
And, as for the OP, they are right to fear the times ahead; and they should move. Granted, it may not be as white out here as you’re use to but we have pie and know how to have fun without blowing/shooting things up.
That’s not how it went down in Rwanda.
The irony, it burns.
It seems it does not come across so crealy in American English, but it is an international company and wanted to be from the very beginning. Part of the due diligence when naming international companies is checking what the name proposed mean in other languages, and Uber has clear nazi connotations and reminiscenses in German, it happens to be smack in the middle of Deutschland Über Alles. It is like calling a taxi company “Heil Taxi!” and giving it a logo of a man with and upstretched right arm, palm facing down. And a Charlie Chaplin moustache to round it up.
Do you agree with me that Mitsubishi should not have called it’s SUV Pajero in the 90’s, because Pajero means wanker in Spanish and it is not a good idea to call your customers wankers? It is same here, but more egregious.
You are right on that one, and it may be worth noting that radio played a very similar role in stoking up hate and violence in that massacre as the so called social media are playing in today’s world. Please don’t misunderstand me: I am not claiming that everything is fine and that we live in the best of all possible worlds. I wrote that the bigger danger of fascism comes from institutions, particularly the state. When citicens killed Jews in Europe the result was usually local pogroms, when the German state did so the result was generalized genocide. I have been made aware of the particular structure of society in the USA, and I take note. The Ruandan case, which I have read about with wonder and horror, is a very peculiar one. It was organized, it was not spontaneous, the machetes were bought in bulk and distributed, as well as some kalashnikovs, and manipulation through radio, the prevalent communiction channel then and there, also played a role. Still, the killing was indeed carried out at the lowest level, between neighbours and friends.
So what words do Germans now use when they want to say “over” or “above”? Of course, companies shouldn’t take names that will be offensive in some countries - the question is whether the German language has changed and Uber has been scrubbed from it except for Nazi references so that the word itself is offensive.
Exactly my thought when i read that, although as @Pardel-Lux points out, the authorities provided a lot of help to create the conditions for massacre.
Rwanda is the scariest genocide in my lifetime.