Do your religious beliefs include some notion of “hell?” If so, is there any way Donald Trump isn’t headed there? If you view him as gravely immoral but support his agenda do you believe the success of that agenda can be a mitigating factor come judgement day?
(Catholic) Yes to the first, not necessarily to the second.
To get to Hell, one needs reject the Divine Mercy. While Trump currently does so*, it is always possible that he’ll eventually have a change of heart. Once he finds a heart someplace, that is 
- It’s not even a matter of believing in God or not, in his case: he is absolutely convinced that he’s never done anything wrong, as in his worldview anything he does is by definition great. To accept mercy (whether m- or M-) you need to begin by admitting that sometimes you do screw up.
True repentance could work, i.e. realizing what you did was wrong, not doing it again, and trying to make amends for it. However, he has shown an inability to understand that he has ever done anything wrong, even flat out saying “I have nothing to be forgiven for.” So I do believe he will go to hell, unless God himself intervenes, and I don’t expect Him to. (And I worry that I sin because I would enjoy seeing him there.)
However, I’m very much not a supporter. I would be interested if any of his supporters can justify otherwise.
What does God need with a political agenda?
The Pope virtually called him a servant of Satan just last week. If God is Catholic, that can’t look good on his résumé.
I don’t believe in Hell, but I wish it existed so that Loser Donald could go there.
A think a janitor in the Kremlin would be more fitting.
It depends on how stupid he is, really.
If he is actually trying hard to do what he believes is best, he can’t be penalized for lack of ability. Does he have the mental faculties to realize how far out of his depth he is and that he should step down?
He could be penalized on the chaos he brings to the rest of the world when doing what he believes to be in the best interests of the US, and not caring about anyone else, but that standard is a difficult on for any president.
I would think that under most traditional Christian soteriologies, provided that Trump’s quotes regarding his relationship with God from during the election are still true, then he is not one of the ‘elect’ or ‘saved’ or what have you. He publicly stated that he has never been contrite over his actions and that he just ‘tries to do good.’ While ‘trying to do good’ is admirable (though I question whether that’s true of him or not, let’s take him at its word that it is.) it fails to bridge the gulf between humanity and God. It’s through Christ’s grace (a complicated concept that can vaguely be simplified as meaning ‘unmerited love’ - senoy says, sounding like Lemony Snicket.) that humanity achieves closeness with God and not through actions. The ‘good’ of Donald Trump’s actions are irrelevant to the discussion. Isaiah 64 is one of the most quoted passages regarding this
Of course, this doesn’t excuse us from not doing good, which is a typical non-Christian criticism. Doing good things is still pleasing to God, but not part of the salvation story.
My own metaphor for this (and it’s just mine, so other Christians may disagree and I don’t pretend that it’s a full picture of grace) is to pretend that there is a guy named Bob that is the curator of the Metropolitan Museum of Art and not just the curator, but the sole owner and trustee. Suppose that Bob has a kindergartner daughter named Suzy. One day Suzy comes up to Bob and draws him a picture as kindergartners are wont to do of a house and a sun and maybe a stick figure of Bob and her together. Bob loves his little girl so much that he gets a frame and puts it on the wall next to Manet’s Boating. Let’s pretend that little Donny T., a boy in Suzy’s class sees this and then produces a picture of his own not too dissimilar from Suzy’s and says ‘Bob, look at my picture. It’s the most awesome picture in the world. It’s much better shaded than Suzy’s and I have a wall around my house, while Suzy’s is plain. Much better picture. People tell me that I’m the greatest painter of all time. I’ve accomplished more artwork in my five years than any person in the history of the world. Hang mine up over top of Suzy’s.’ It would not surprise us if Bob did not do so. It’s not that Bob is not happy that Donny is painting and he may even think that Donny’s picture is quite good for a kindergartners, but on its merits it’s not Caravaggio and Donny misunderstands why Suzy’s picture is hanging there. It’s hanging there because Bob loves Suzy, not because he loves her artwork. Bob is pleased that she is trying and wants her to keep painting (for that matter, he’s happy that Donny is trying to paint as well), but the merits of the painting are irrelevant. It’s the effort and the fact that he loves his daughter that gets her a place in the Met.
I used to wonder about God being all powerful, loving, and without malice. I had to take that description as a given, but it didn’t square with him creating Evil. I spent some time confused (having received answers like, “It’s a mystery…”) but eventually decided God’s got His plans, and those plans include tests. And those tests involve giving us an opportunity to respond to Evil when we encounter it. So Evil is not really evil, it’s just part of what God throws at us. So Hitler, serial killers, misers, etc. are doing God’s work, which in those cases amounts to the nasty-looking elements of ultimately good stuff. So when we are faced with Evil, the question is not “How did that get there!” it is “What am I going to do about that evil over there.” As for the Evil person, not my business (Jesus Hisself says so). The Evil’s business is to be and act as God made it. Hitler’s purpose was to create conflict and horror. He did it well. He performed God’s will to the letter. Heaven-bound.
My cosmology has changed a bit since then, but I keep the same principle: there is no such thing as evil, there is just stuff that tests my patience with myself and others. Trump tends to make me really mad for a lot of reasons, but my task is NOT to control HIM, it is to make sure HIS actions don’t move ME to treat people badly. If I can do that, if everyone can do that–just not be dicks to each other–then Trump and his ilk are powerless.
According to some Christian sects, you can’t get to Heaven on just good works. So whatever “good works” ol Donny might do, it wouldn’t be enough to overcome his sins.
So if there is a Hell, he’ll be there.
But so will the most of us. Heaven will be pretty lonely.
Well just looking at what I see I don’t see him going to the ‘good place’ anytime soon as he has made his own good place. It does appear that Trump has made a ‘deal with the devil’ and has chosen the path of evil. I suspect he will exist in continuing fading glory in the afterlife, insulated from the ‘fires of hell’ by the suffering of others who are also there. So no reason to repent and leave. But eventually those suffering for him will turn to God and be saved (yes from Hell, Jesus overcame death and preached down there, He didn’t do it to make fun of these souls, He came to save), Trumps power will fade and he will feel more and more uncomfortable at the life he has chosen and will then return to God in repentance.
So yes he is most likely going, but very well prepared. With that said Repentance is always a option, though I’m not sure Trump is ready.
There is a chance that Trump has repented and believes he is doing the will of God, if so yes he will be saved but there will be a refining period, either on earth, ‘heaven’ or in ‘hell’ where Trump learns God’s ways.
I don’t give much weight to the moral judgements of an enabler of pedophiles.
I’ve been an atheist for better than 40 years now, but IIRC Christian doctrine was that we have no way of knowing who is in Hell nor is it our place to decide. There was also a lot of nattering about forgiveness and turning the other cheek and stuff. Trump is a jackass and a corrosive influence on our society. If I were God, he’d burn; but I’m not and the rules say it isn’t my place to judge his soul.
Nope.
Depends entirely on his salvation in Christ. None of us know.
The fact that there’s a “Highway to Hell” but only a “Stairway to Heaven” says something about the anticipated traffic patterns.
It is unwise to speculate on another’s state of grace while our own sins blind us. Mine own blindness prevents me from seeing the good works by Donald John Trump that I expect from someone who knows God.
If being a lying, sleazebag politician automatically dooms one to hell, then they’re going to have to build a large annex down there, with extra flames.
I don’t know. Can the Antichrist get to heaven?
Preach it, brother!
I’m agnostic by nature but were I of believing bent I would worry more about my own destination and less about where others end up. If anything, one should hope that salvation is offered to one such as DJT, as this would greatly improve the odds of it being offered to the rest of us.