Believe it or not, this is not a joke thread.
I put forward that Trump, as President, would have wanted to know everything about Area 51 (and any other secret sites), Top Secret documents concerning the existence of U.F.Os and/or aliens. I also put forward that, if anything was revealed to him that even slightly hinted at extraterrestrial life, he would have been incapable of keeping his mouth shut, and I don’t recall him ever bringing the subject up at all.
What say you?
Or perhaps it is proof that the “Deep State” (hum…) works as intended, and the people in the know did not tell him the truth, because they knew what a bloviating idiot he is.
I can’t argue with your reasoning.
But it’s possible Trump has never heard of Area 51 or Roswell. So it may not have occurred to him to demand all the secrets about them.
I did say evidence, and not proof, and it seems to me that Roswell/Area 51 junk science shows would be the type he would watch.
I don’t know. I feel those conspiracies are aimed at people who think they’re not being told things and want to know the secrets of the universe.
I feel Trump is convinced he knows everything that’s important and is the center of the universe. He has no abstract sense of curiosity and no desire to learn new things.
^^^ That.
If Trump had said “there are aliens in Nevada”, would you have believed him?
Trump lies so easily and so often that anything he says, or doesn’t say, means nothing, one way or the other.
I haven’t used it yet, publicly, but privately I have considered Trump’s Trumpness as being evidence against clandestine interactions with or secret knowledge of aliens by the US government. If he knew, we’d know.
I also use Trump as evidence that Assad was a bad guy who used chemical weapons against his own people. It goes too strongly against his world view and interests to launch missiles at the guy if he wasn’t really doing it.
There’s a table top role playing game called Delta Green that was first published in 1997 that was a mashup of current UFO myth with H.P. Lovecraft’s Cthulhu mythos. In 1947, the Greys land in Roswell and they end up making a deal with the United States. They provide the government with technology and information and the government will look the other way as the Greys experiement on their citizens.
A new edition of the game was published in 2018, and the setting had changed to a post-9/11 America rather than the sweet innocent 1990s we all know and love.
If UFOs were real, I wouldn’t doubt it if someone kept it hidden from Trump. I don’t doubt that our own intelligence agencies became very careful about what they briefed the president on in real life.
Exactly this, which I’m now seconding or thirding. The folks who believe in Area 51 conspiracies may not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, but they at least have some rudiment of human curiosity. Trump has none whatsoever. His comment about what he supposedly “knows” about Roswell is not inconsistent with that; it’s just his usual ego-boosting self-aggrandizement. It’s much the same as telling us that we “wouldn’t believe” what his “investigators” have found in Hawaii relating to Obama’s fake birth certificate.
There’s another aspect to all this that pertains to what he actually knows about anything. His complete lack of curiosity puts a serious upper limit on what information he is able and willing to seek out, absorb, and retain – an upper limit that is damn close to zero.
Furthermore, although the “deep state” is mostly a construct of right-wing conspiracy nuts, it’s a fact that in reality there does exist an entrenched bureaucracy in all governments comprised of lifetime civil servants and military brass whose power is real and is often at odds with that of their elected leadership (see, for instance, the British comedy series Yes, Minister, very much inspired by real life).
The salient question that then arises is how this plays out when said elected leader is an ineffable moron. And the obvious answer is that said bureaucrats circle their wagons, and, in particular, there’s a lot they don’t tell said ineffable moron and a lot of the things that the ineffable moron is theoretically empowered to do end up existing only in theory and not in practice (see, for example, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley versus Trump’s theoretical ability to deploy nuclear weapons; when there’s a monkey at the switch, there’s a compelling responsibility to make sure the switch is disconnected).
Or, in other words, what I just said. Not that I believe UFOs (of the alien type) are real, but IF they were, Trump would be the last to know, the last to understand, and the last to care.
I thought that this thread was going to be about how, if aliens did exist, they’d surely nuke us from orbit once donald was elected.
I took the opposite tack.
If aliens were here, even if they had a Prime Directive, or didn’t and mostly just wanted us for anal probing and for hors d’oeuvre ingredients, TFG was so outré they’d still feel duty-bound by their very alien moral code to incinerate that goofball poste haste. Some shit is just universally reviled, and I do mean big-U Universally.
The fact he was not (and still hasn’t been) incinerated means there are no aliens here now.
They won’t burn their own.
I agree that Trump would not have independently sought out this information, for the reasons stated.
However — if you were to tell him a story about there being ultra-classified UFO operations buried in the government that were keeping secrets from him and that they would deliberately defy his authority if he ordered them to tell him what they knew, he would expend some effort (for the lazy Trump’s version of effort anyway) to pierce that veil due to the perceived insult to his ego. He also would have probably started rolling “Area 51” references into his “deep state” braying.
Ah well, what might have been.
It’s not evidence against aliens visiting Earth, it’s just evidence against the US Government having knowledge/physical evidence of aliens.
But why do you need evidence against? Space aliens visiting Earth is an extraordinary claim and it’s the job of those claiming it’s true to provide the evidence to support it. Anyone trying to refute it is in the position of proving a negative, which is a difficult thing to do.