Let me know what you think of this cite - http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/pal-prisoners.html
Administrative detainee ( arrest without charge or trial) - 229
Children - 211
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/prisoners.html
You saying it is does not make it so.
Because that’s part of the price Hamas demanded for the return of Gilad Shalit. So maybe you better ask that question of Israel’s enemies.
Anyway, you implied that Zakout was “forced” to engage in murder because of “conditions” imposed by the Israelis.
Well what exactly am I missing?
No I don’t know that. Name 3 of them and give me credible information that they are in jail for “nothing.”
For what? You’ve revealed your attitude by implying that people like Zakout are morally blameless for their slaughter of innocent people; that the blame lies with Israel for having the chutzpah to “occupy” places like Tel Aviv.
Hilarious statistics for “If Americans Knew”.
Israel holds a whole 229 people in “administrative detention”. If Americans only Knew! How outraged they would be!
Of course, America itself holds 31,000 in administrative detention, Egypt holds 20,000, etc. etc.
Which isn’t to say such mechanisms are good - they are justly accused by human rights groups - just that, in terms of committing this terrible offence, Israel is a piker. A website that is intended to generate outrage among Americans should really choose a different drum to beat.
Right. As an American, I’m saddened, but not overly so. Harsh circumstances call for harsh processes.
That being said, it’s still better than how Hamas deals with “administrative detention”, which is to say, shoot the person in the head with no trial.
Even though I addressed how wrong you are top assume or interpret what I wrote you still go ahead with the assumption. Your debating skills are nil and any continued effort is futile. The degree of dishonesty is alarming. While probably you’ll protest, I thought you should know.
No you didn’t. What you did was to assert that I am missing something. You refuse to say exactly what I am missing.
You also assert that hundreds of Palestinian Arabs are being held by Israel for no reason. Yet you refuse to identify any of these people or provide any information at all to support your claims.
Don’t worry, I’m not alarmed by your debating style. It’s unfortunately typical.
So you do support what happens to the Amils?
Why?
I would guess that what’s bothering him is this.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14370134&postcount=61
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14369771&postcount=56
Will you STFU now?
No, of course not. Why should I? I am asking you to give me 3 names; supporting information; and to spell out what I am supposedly missing.
In other words, put up or shut up. Although somehow I expect you will do neither.
Neither of your posts supports your contention that they are “being held for nothing”.
Please provide evidence that there are hundreds of Palestinians in Israeli custody who haven’t committed any crimes or admit that you misspoke.
I hope the US never does something like this.
More importantly, what would you do if that were your daughter?
At some point, the terrorists have to be the party you deal with. They have the power. It’s how government works.
Then you should not rest until the government is overthrown/destroyed/whatever.
It will not help Palestine either that convicted murderers are released. The released prisoners may then return to their volient ways which is not good for the Palestinian cause.
This is not appropriate for Great Debates. Don’t do it again.
May, hell.
I imagine that the Israelis are trying to keep them in sight, however.
It is awful that murderers were released as part of the deal. If it were only political prisoners that were released then both sides would appear reasonable. As it is, it brings down the moral standing of both the Palestinians and the Israelis.
If I’m ever kidnapped by Islamic extremists or even Tony Two Toes and his mob, I want to go on record right now as saying please don’t make exchanges for me, no matter how much I may plead at the time.
