No warnings have been issued, we’re just trying to keep the discussion on topic. Take my post in #38 to be an outline of what that topic is.
Fried Dough Ho’s post was very close to a line in “Motel Blues” by Loudon Wainwright III.
Interesting. I’ve been a fan of her work for some time now
And nice one Justin Bailey giving FDH the heads up that a pit thread had opened up.
It does? Damn.
Or perhaps I replied before reading the whole thread to check if calling someone out was deemed unacceptable.
No it can’t, because we’re not allowed to discuss moderator actions in the Pit.
Moving right along…
Is there any actual evidence that this woman has died?
I mean other than the link in the OP? I’m not really a porn buff; however, I do remember reports when other adult stars died and there doesn’t seem to be anything on this other than that blog post.
It’s beginning to look like a marketing hoax by the guy who runs Lightspeed. A little Googling reveals her real name to be Tammy Saris. She has a Facebook page here and has apparently just set up a Twitter account to say she is alive and well.
According to some threads Google found which contained information on her background by people who knew her, she was a high school cheerleader ( pic, scroll to post #100) from Illinois who left home upon graduation and moved to Phoenix to study accounting, whereby she met the Lightspeed guy and started doing mostly soft-core porn to finance her accounting degree. This sort of adds up because she doesn’t seem to have done anything pornographic since her first year or so and Lightspeed has been living off it since. The grapevine by people supposedly in the know is that she has been working as an accountant in Arizona since graduating college.
I do hope she’s okay. After seeing photos of her I’m a little smitten myself.
How can you not be? I’m very happy to hear that she’s alive and well.
I’ll confess to being mildly squicked by a cursory Google Image search of Tawnee Stone. Unlike most faux-jailbait, she looks extremely young (from the neck up) in some of them—like a 12-year-old with tits, basically. Of course she isn’t, but something about the authenticity of her appearance creeps me out, when I consider what (and whom) she’s designed to appeal to.
But we like what we like, I guess.
You’re certainly entitled to be squicked out if you want to, but I disagree with both your assessment of her looks and of her target audience. She had (and apparently still has) a youthful, fresh-faced and wholesome look, but IMO not a childlike one. Men have been attracted to pretty, youthful and wholesome-looking women since time immemorial. I think too many people are going overboard these days with the pedophile thing and it’s distorting their perceptions. A person could go to any college campus anywhere and find girls who have a similar look to hers and no one would think they look like twelve-year-olds.
Then there’s the question that if only pedophiles would logically be expected to be attracted to her, who is she supposed to marry and have a life and family with? Should she be expected to wait until she’s fifty before she marries because anyone interested in her before then would ipso-facto have to be a pedophile?
I’ve probably seen the same photos that you have and in not one of them did I think she looked like a twelve-year-old with a grown-up’s body.
But we see what we want, I quess.
She’s tweeting that she is alive and well.
Okay, I take back some of what I said to Vinyl Turnip. Upon further Googling I did see some photos where Tawnee Stone could fairly be described as looking like a “twelve-year-old with tits.”
But who is it really who would be attracted to her based on those photos? My understanding of pedophiles is that they would not be attracted to her specifically because of her adult figure. So I’m still going with youthful, fresh-faced prettiness being the source of her appeal rather than pedophilia (or for that matter, ephebophilia, since I believe ephebophiles are interested in pubescent girls without much development).
But again I suggest that men cannot be and should not be expected to avoid women like her simply because of their youthful appearance, and that women like her should not be expected to avoid men who are interested in them because of the supposed liklihood that those men are pedophiles.
I think people interested in pubescent children without much development are hebephiles, while people interested in older adolescents are ephebophiles.
From the Wikipedia page on Ephebophilia:
I wouldn’t date them, have sex with them, nor do I “prefer” them, but I was at the mall yesterday and there were quite a few pretty girls with gorgeous bodies who were probably in the 15-19 year old age range. Wikipedia says that thinking so does not make me an ephebophile, so I can now breathe a sigh of relief.
About the only physical difference I can see between high school girls and women above the age of consent is that younger girls usually weigh less, but that applies almost as much to women in their 20s too. I prefer slimmer women, so I often look at porn in the “teen” section. I used to feel slightly guilty about it but I know that most of those women are in their 20s (i.e. my age) and only get herded into the “teen” section because they’re smaller or thinner.
Anyway, thought I’d let people know why some guys might look at “teen” porn and why that doesn’t even make us ephebophiles, let alone pedophiles.
I picked up this story from a porn site forum.
The owner of website Tawnee Stone was on, Steve “Lightspeed” Jones, posted on a porn forum to say she had been killed in a car accident.
She was born in December 1982. She would have been killed the day before her birthday.
She paid her way through university at Arizona State by modelling on the Lightspeed websites which are based in Glendale.
She probably did join the company when she was 19 and was sold as “The 19-year-old Internet Sensation from Texas.”
Her real name is well known and is Tammy Saris - this is why her stage name initials were TS. She was called Tawnee because of the color of her hair.
She packed porn in to be an accountant and still lives/d in Arizona.
The penalty for possession of ONE indecent photo of a child in Arizona is 10 years with NO chance of parole.
Tammy Saris was OVER 18 when she started modelling for Lightspeed or else Steve “Lightspeed” Jones would be inline for several million years in the State pen.
Tawnee Stone took Lightspeed into a higher league. She popularized the fresh faced girl next door look. She does not look like a 12-year-old. She looks like many young women at college.
Commenting on an earlier poster who said illegal models are rare on the net. They are rare. The media with all the pedo hysteria makes out there is illegal porn all over the place. Frankly this is simply hysteria and probably a tale they push to justify everything else the zealots get up to.
In the UK the Internet Web Foundation had a blacklist of illegal web addresses. The US equivalent is ASACP - the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection.
There are about 500 url’s on the IWF’s current live sites blacklist. Some “authorities” make out there are over 100 000 illegal sites. This is crazy nonsense.
Illegal sites have a life of about 4 weeks and then they move to another domain. This is in order to stay one step ahead on the law. In the UK 98.5% of the Internet Service Providers block all the IWF blacklisted websites - so users couldn’t get on these websites anyway.
The VAST majority of illegal images do not come from websites but are swapped through file sharing with software like Limewire and Kazaa. So if you hear of some guy with 1000’s of illegal images - they will have come from file sharing. It is also quite possible outside the USA the images are not of underage individuals, as prosecutors do not have to prove the images are of underage in some countries (eg the UK) - they ask the jury what they think!
There is LOTS of stuff on porn sites which might look illegal (ie under 18). This is because there is an army of young adult models who look young. They are slim and fresh faced. Slim so the women they have small breasts and a boyish figure.
They might also put them in pig tails, have them look paler (not sure why this makes models look younger but it does), as well as give them toys, youngsters’ make up and clothing.
There are so many adult models like this, there is no need for sites to run any risks by posting images of underage models. When adults can look or be made to look 13 or 14-years-old, who in their right mind would have photos of actual 13-year-olds?
Looking at the Cybertip.ca (Canadian hotline for reporting illegal content) 98.5% of illegal content pages has as its youngest looking child, someone who is under 11-years-old.
Illegal content and illegal sites have unmistakable children shown. If someone like young looking models there are billions of legal images out there.
The stuff that is really illegal, for the pedos, is unmistakably of children - the prepubescent under 11’s.
Tawnee Stone was/is a million miles away from that.
Designed by who? God? DNA? That is how she looks/looked.
It’s been four days since the alleged incident occurred, and there has been no independent confirmation of her death. We only have one person’s word for it, and he is as dodgy as they come, having apparently lied about things of this significance in the past just to get attention.
I remain doubtful.
Yeah that is the view of many people now - Steve Shite-speed strikes again!
I hope so as from what I have seen she has started a new life and was doing alright thank-you very much.
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Make phony death announcement (but with plausible deniability) regarding long-time most popular Lightspeed girl Tawnee Stone on fan forums, with implication that site may be taken down soon.
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Old fans plus new fans drawn in by publicity rush to buy Tawnee porn while the getting’s still good.
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Profit
I couldn’t help but picture her in someone’s grimy wood-paneled basement where a hairy, heavily cologned man is cautioning her in a raspy voice not to tell her parents about her “portfolio shots” and preparing to ask a series of increasingly probing questions about her younger sister.