Dude-fucking Let. It. Go.
You’ve gone beyond over-analyzing it. Gah. I wish I had such trivial things to worry about.
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But when I was introduced to the term it was explained that it is specifically used because Tiger Woods is black, and Arnold Palmer is white.
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Once again, Whoop De Fucking Doo. Are you going to get all butthurt if an Hispanic customer comes in and asks for a “Chi Chi Rodriguez”?
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Well, then, that’s completely different. Now it rates a full Whoop De Fucking Doo.
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I agree. Though if we can drag it out for another page and a half, we might be able to bump it up to a Hot Cha Cha.
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Because there really is no other reasoning for it? PunditLisa said “it probably just means Tiger Woods is her favorite golfer” - WTF? So do you just call anything you like by the names of your favorite sports stars?
“Hi, I’d like a LeBron James.”
“Err, I’m not familiar with that…”
“Oh, it’s a cheeseburger. I just call it a LeBron James because LeBron James is my favorite basketball player.”
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no, it went:
“Hi I want a grilled patty of ground beef with a slice of cheese all on a bun.”
“Oh, you mean a LeBron James, that’s what we call that”
“I want a Kobe Bryant” :rolleyes:
interesting simulpost
*As some of you know, I work in a restaurant. I’m a server. I get to deal with douchebag customers every day, so I am mostly pretty desensitized to it. But today I had a lady that just floored me with her douchbaggery, and it’s not the first time I’ve heard someone say this, so I really feel like it’s time to step up and call this horrible practice out.
I was taking drink orders at a table of British folks. One elderly lady asks for “A rum mixed with Coke with lime”, a rather cumbersome way to order a common drink better known as a Cuba Libra. In fact, I couldn’t even figure out what she was saying the first time (it’s pretty loud in my restaurant) and when she said it again I reply with, “Oh, Cuba Libra.”
She wags her finger at me, “No, a Spanish Inquisition.” OK, like I said, I’ve heard that one before and I know full well why she is calling it a “Spanish Inquisition”. Because Cuba Libra is about Cuban independence, and “The Spanish Inquisition” is a popular Monty Python skit. Yes, really.
It’s called an Cuba Libra because Teddy Rosevelt used to drink them before charging up San Juan Hill. Basically invented it. Even if he wasn’t the first man ever to mix rum and Coke, he was the one who made it famous. It doesn’t matter if he is Cuban, Spanish, fat, or blind. John Cleese, on the other hand, did not invent the Cuba Libra. I don’t know if John Cleese drinks Cuba Libras or not, but I bet you if he does when he orders them he says, “I’ll have an Cuba Libra”. If Idi Amin invented a drink, and I went into a restaurant I wouldn’t say “I’ll have a Idi Amin, except I call it a Josef Stalin because Josef Stalin is white, like me.”*
Now I’m waiting for some Ukranian to get flamed for calling a “White Russian” a “Cossack”. Some people just live for the outrage.
Stranger
nicely done, Stranger
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Now I’m waiting for some Ukranian to get flamed for calling a “White Russian” a “Cossack”. Some people just live for the outrage.
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Heh, for a little tangent (and on a lighter note) the other day I was in a Hollywood Video and noticed that the emergency exit door had an inscription that said “FREEZE GOPHER. EMERGENCY EXIT - ALARM WILL SOUND”
I asked the cashier what “freeze gopher” meant. Was the door calling me a gopher? I said (jokingly) that I was offended - I am not a gopher! He informed me it was a line from Caddyshack. Then he told me that there was actually a guy once who was seriously offended by the door calling him a gopher. I had to laugh at the thought of that one. 
The Thai restaurant I work at serves Thai Iced Tea, which is iced tea with half and half. Since Tiger is part Thai, maybe you could add half and half to an Arnold Palmer and call it a Tiger Woods?
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I was taking drink orders at a table of British folks. One elderly lady asks for “A rum mixed with Coke with lime”, a rather cumbersome way to order a common drink better known as a Cuba Libra. In fact, I couldn’t even figure out what she was saying the first time (it’s pretty loud in my restaurant) and when she said it again I reply with, “Oh, Cuba Libra.”
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err…Cuba Libre.
Gaudere, where are ya when we need ya?
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I just did a quick Google search, and it looks like (at least at first glance) there is a variation of the Arnold Palmer drink, which includes cranberry juice and is called a Tiger Woods. I haven’t checked the links, so I’m not sure how valid they are, but there were enough of them to make me think the Tiger Woods name is not uncommon.
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That just struck me as funny. In this thread.
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As some of you know, I work in a restaurant. I’m a server. I get to deal with douchebag customers every day, so I am mostly pretty desensitized to it. But today I had a lady that just floored me with her douchbaggery, and it’s not the first time I’ve heard someone say this, so I really feel like it’s time to step up and call this horrible practice out.
I was taking drink orders at a table of African-American folks. One elderly lady asks for “A lemonade mixed with iced tea”, a rather cumbersome way to order a common drink better known as an Arnold Palmer. In fact, I couldn’t even figure out what she was saying the first time (it’s pretty loud in my restaurant) and when she said it again I reply with, “Oh, an Arnold Palmer.”
She wags her finger at me, “No, a Tiger Woods.” OK, like I said, I’ve heard that one before and I know full well why she is calling it a “Tiger Woods”. Because Tiger Woods is black, and Arnold Palmer is white. Yes, really.
It’s called an Arnold Palmer because Arnold Palmer basically invented it. Even if he wasn’t the first man ever to mix iced tea and lemonade, he was the one who made it famous. It doesn’t matter if he is white, black, fuschia, or teal. Tiger Woods, on the other hand, did not invent the Arnold Palmer. I don’t know if Tiger Woods drinks Arnold Palmers or not, but I bet you if he does when he orders them he says, “I’ll have an Arnold Palmer”. If Michael Jordan invented a drink, and I went into a restaurant I wouldn’t say “I’ll have a Michael Jordan, except I call it a Larry Bird because Larry Bird is white, like me.”
This, to me, shows me right off the bat that this person is a stupid Anglophobe. And guess what? I’m white! I serve black people all the time, but it kind of makes me uncomfortable when someone like this basically professes their ignorant disdain for my race and I’m still stuck serving them margaritas. It feels genuinely insulting. And when she said that, of course I didn’t tell her what I really thought of the term because I was still hoping to get a tip - that’s why I’m there, right? (for the record, they did end up giving me a 15% tip) But it’s bugging me enough that the next time I hear it, I am going to set the record straight (in a polite, factual way of course), tip be damned.
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Wow. What’s cumbersome about saying “half a lemonade, half an iced tea?” I will occasionally order a Cape Codder, but I can just as easily say “cranberry juice and vodka.” I’ve never been corrected and I’d find it a little rude if the server did.
You also presume to know why the lady called it a Tiger Woods. Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re wrong. Is it not possible that she’s learned that it’s called a Tiger Woods elsewhere? I mean, it’s not like she called it a “Jim Brown.” Tiger Woods isn’t exactly shouting “I’m Black” from the rooftops. Seems pretty unfair to jump to that conclusion without much evidence to support it. Are you perhaps projecting another incident with a Black customer who made that point? If so, your anger should be directed to that person, not the lady you were dealing with.
I’d recommend you hold your tongue in check when correcting customers in the future. If you’d just taken the woman’s order, there would have been no problem, would there? The other thing you need to consider is that according to your OP, it was loud in the restaurant. I presume you’re a young guy. You’re a young guy, raising your voice to correct an old lady. Some folks take offense to that. And more importantly, it’s not as if your correction is necessarily helping things. I’m thinking it’s not that much more efficient to say "Arnold Palmer"as it is to say “lemonade mixed with iced tea.”
Just to clarify, Rigamarole, I’m not having a go… I just think you jumped to a conclusion unsupported by the facts you gave us. If you felt she was being racist to you, you could be right.
Rigamarole, I share your pain. The public sucks. But seriously, that joke was better than some of the shit that makes me laugh on this board. Had I been in your position (and I have been before) I’d have smiled back. That was funny. Her mock anger could have lead to mock racist animosity for the rest of the evening leaving you both laughing.
I love those interactions.
I serve a lot of lesbian customers in my work. The fun we have. It’s ace. Most people like doing a parody of PC behviour IMO
My RO burns like the fire of a thousand daughters.
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I agree with you, as long as I understand clearly what you are ordering I don’t care what you call it.
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Riiight. Arnold Palmer is more clear than “A lemonade mixed with iced tea”?
:dubious:
Calling it a Tiger Woods was a joke and a funny one.
Sattua: “It was a case of reverse racism.”
-So if someone doesn’t like me because of my white skin color it has a special name?
Stranger On A Train: “Some people just live for the outrage.”
-Amen, brother, amen.
[QUOTE=Rigamarole]
As I see it, racism is racism. But I just think crazy like that.
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If you say so. Personally, I don’t see the point of getting all butt-hurt over such a trivial example of racially loaded speech. As a white male, I’ve not personally suffered a single iota of racism in my entire life. While I have no doubt that anti-white racism exists, it’s so far from being institutionalized or pervasive as to have no effect on my life. Were I to encounter an anti-white bigot, I think it would be easy to shrug it off simply because I know that it’s just one idiot.
I think we all agree that people shouldn’t be racist. But I sense a disproportionate sense of outrage in the OP at the fact that it was perceived black on white racism. As if fighting institutionalized discrimination over the past half century obligates all black people to be held to the highest possible standard of racial sensitivity.
Me, while I’d love it if no one ever thought a racially-biased thought, I’ll cut people who have been truly discriminated against some slack when they’re overly sensitive. White guys looking for a reason to get outraged over any perceived racial slight? Not so much.
So, if when you say “hey, I have Martin Luther King day off work, what are you doing?” and I say “No, you mean Kent Hovind day” that isn’t a litte pittable?
[QUOTE=Rigamarole]
Wrong. They (the people who use this term) know full well that it is called an Arnold Palmer. The first time I heard it, the person explicitly stated that they called it such because TW is black and AP is not.
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I’m very interested in hearing the backstory of the first patron, the one who explicity told you that she called it a Tiger Woods because he was black. Because, quite frankly, your story is making my bullshitometer go off.
Two separate African American patrons got into a fuss with you over an “Arnold Palmer” and both happened to re-name it after a popular black golfer. That’s quite a coincidence. (Do you have similar arguments over White Russians or is it just old white golfers that set “them” off?) Maybe they’re part of some “Let’s bring the white man down!” e-mail distribution list and calling an Arnold Palmer a Tiger Woods was the cause of the month.
Of course, that doesn’t explain why the most recent patron first referred to it as “half lemonade, half iced tea” first.
[QUOTE=Rigamarole]
She wags her finger at me, “No, a Tiger Woods.” OK, like I said, I’ve heard that one before and I know full well why she is calling it a “Tiger Woods”. Because Tiger Woods is black, and Arnold Palmer is white. Yes, really.
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You will kindly make me a Vijay Singh immediately very much please. Do the needful and oblige.
/not Indian