Nikjohns…I’ve used the word assclown since I saw the movie Office Space…and I am a Jericholic as well as a hardygrrl:)
From bare:
I can imagine that as well. I could also imagine a running chainsaw jammed up your ass. It is not hard to imagine anything…
But the fact is, there was no “public” Easter egg hunt at this park. Our little reserved shelter was in the corner of an open field that is probably close to 50 acres. Our shelter is surrounded by bushes that make up its ‘boundry’. There was maybe a dozen kids tops running around the shelter looking for eggs. Apparently one was a little too close to the sidewalk so this lady figured it was fair game. I figure that’s bullshit!!
Ya know, about an hour before we started our little hunt, another larger family had kids running around doing their thing. Did any of us run over there to see what we could find? Did we mistake it for a public hunt? NO. And since this thief’s family was leaving at the time she took the egg, she did not mistake ours for a public hunt either. She saw an egg on the ground and thought it would be ok to take it. I just can’t believe the nerve of people. It is just not right to take things- anything- that is not yours. Especially when it clearly belongs to the people running around searching for eggs!!!
Thanks for completely missing the fucking point. Are you saying it is ok for me to steal a car from a rich person because he/she can afford it??? The point is not that it was a small amount of money. The point is this lady was on her way home, leaving the park, walked by our egg hunt with her daughter and took one of our eggs. I am sure it went a little something like this: Daughter notices the egg in the bushes and grabs it. The mother, instead of teaching her daughter to respect other peoples’ things, lets her take it and walks off. I think this is totally ridiculous. If you can’t see where this is wrong, then fuck you too.
Autumn Chick:
No, you don’t have this straight. Is making things straight always a problem for you?? Maybe let them look at porn first before you get naked. A darker room might help a little too.
We hid an egg less than ten yards from a reserved shelter that was isolated and far away from everyone else. This is a big park. Some asshole and her little bitchling decided the world revolved around them and it would be alright to take one of the eggs. No matter how I look at this, I find it disturbing that someone would just casually walk by and take some other childrens’ eggs. It’s not kiddie-porn disturbing, but it’s just not right!!
Yes I suppose it is foolish for my mother to present needy little children with candy, change, and dollar bills! How retarded of her!!! Yes, all of these kids (with the exception of my neice) are needy. My mother and we are always giving them clothes and furniture and food and anything else they need. These kids don’t get to have/spend money of their own. I dont think it is foolish at all for her to do this. I think it is one of a million wonderful selfless things she does for peopole all the time.
But again, the money is not the point. I would have been just as pissed if it was an egg filled with M&Ms. I find the actions of that mom completely flamable and I am not over-reacting in the least!
Klatuu, beats the hell out of me where the egg hunting thing started from. Basically I don’t really care.
Just because it is commercialized and not longer a religous holiday doesn’t mean it can’t still be a holiday. Easter is the one time a year my mother can get the family all together in the same place. Just because we don’t pray and go to church and all that shit, doesn’t mean we can’t still celebrate Easter. Hell, I never turn away Christmas presents either.
Varlos…
At first I thought you were starting a problem where none existed. I thought you just got a little offended and your were crying about it.
But then, Cartooniverse did a little better job of explaining your point. Cartooniverse made me realize that I was only using the words “cunt” and “whore” because she was a women, and if she were a man, I would have chosen different words. This choice of words goes with a specific group of people “women” and anytime one degrades a group of people, it’s wrong.
But then you (Varlos) say,"I mean, I could maybe see using “bitch,” as it’s become, basically, the female conjugation of “asshole.” "
IMO, this is contrary to your initial gripe. You are saying it is ok to use the word bitch EVEN THOUGH it is the female version of asshole. By being the female version, ‘bitch’ has become a word used almost exclusively toward women. So even if I chose to use ‘bitch’ instead, I would still be choosing a derogatory word based on her gender. In this case, I don’t think cunt is actually any worse as far as degrading a group of people goes. It’s just using a stronger word to degrade a group of people. But if you can accept someone using bitch, then you should accept them using cunt as well.
Now if you are correct when you say that bitch is the female version of asshole, then I think the words bitch or cunt would be equally wrong and the issue is that of good taste and not with degrading a group of people since both words degrade a group of people.
However, if Cartooniverse’s opinion is correct and bitch is gender-neutral, then I have to agree that it would be wrong to use the word cunt, but ok to use the word bitch.
Problem is, I am not completely convinced that the word is entirely gender-neutral. Pending more thought into this, (and possibly a GD thread) I will forego any further use of the word cunt and whore… Oooops, I just used them. Ok, starting now.
[sub]:: Sticking with the religious angle I took earlier ::[/sub]
I can see Jesus now-
“I came back for this!”
Against my better judgement, I’m gonna weigh in here (and possibly flamebait myself)…
Bear, is it possible that this woman didn’t know that you and your family were having an Easter Egg hunt there? Is it possible that she and her daughter were just walking along in a public park, saw an Easter egg, picked it up giggling innocently, and took it home?
Please keep in mind that I am NOT attacking you here… I’m just presenting possible explanations! In my experience, people tend to jump to conclusions that others have offended them purposefully; when the truth is very often that the offense was unintentional. This could easily be one of those cases where an offense was the result of a simple brain-fart, and nothing more… it happens…
Now, if the woman thought to herself ‘Ha! I’m gonna deprive those brats of an egg! (NOT knowing, mind, that there was a $5 bill inside)’ then I second your OP. But that just doesn’t sound too likely to me. Perhaps I have too much faith in human goodness…
So glad Easter filled you with peace and love.
Bear_Nenno, are you on crack?
Cunt. Whore. Not human. Damned. A running chainsaw shoved up someone’s ass.
Geezus, Bear, get some fucking help, and a little sense of perspective. As soon as fucking possible.
Shit happens, and it’s ok to be angry about it. But fuck, I’m honestly frightened of people who clearly have no idea how to cope with their anger. WTF would you have done, hung her from a fucking lamppole in front of her daughter?
Choad.
Bear_Nenno:
I agree . . . in part. Of course one shouldn’t go around denigrating whole groups of people on the basis of race, gender, etc. In modern usage, I get the distinct impression that when one refers to a woman as a “whore” or a “cunt,” one is not just insulting that particular woman but is implying that the insult is related to that person’s gender, and the characteristics thereof, in general. (Most women I know feel particularly strongly about the “C” word.) Conversely, when one refers to a man as an “asshole,” the insult is not perceived at being gender specific, only the word. “Bitch,” while hardly a compliment to woman-kind, seems to be very similar in modern usage (though I also know a few women who take great offense at its use as well). I draw an admittedly arbitrary line between “bitch” and those other words simply because it (in my mind) serves the female gender in much the same way that “asshole” serves the male gender – i.e., it implies that an individual has certain unpleasant personality traits without implying that those traits are at all gender-specific.
Ahh, but I chose my words carefully. I said it was the de facto female conjugation of “asshole.” In my mind, they are the same word, just as “chico” and “chica” are the same word in Spanish.
Amen, Andros!!!
Bear – I cannot phathom how people as tightly wound as you can make it through a day without suffering multiple coronaries.
OK, so this is the Pit, and you can bitch about the damned Easter egg all you want. I agree, IF the woman knew exactly was going on, she should have told the daughter to put the egg back. IF she opened the egg and realized the 5 bucks was yours she should have given it back to you. But, for Christ’s sake [pun intended] it’s Easter. Forgive and forget, man. You don’t even have a first-hand account of the situation; you have no idea what her perspective is, yet you judge so harshly.
Just take a deep breath and count back from ten.
Better?
Didn’t think so.
Sorry to bring up a 6-day-dead thread, but I have been extremely busy with moving and Varlos deserves a response. The other two responses will be for shits and giggles.
First, Varlos
Now I see what you were saying! Thanks!!
Originally posted by andros:
Why do you think I have no idea how to deal with my anger??? I was barely even mad-- mostly shocked. I blew it off and didn’t think about it until later that night when I was telling the story to someone and decided to post about. What the fuck’s the big deal about that? Why does that make me unstable? Is it because I said I could imagine a chainsaw shoved up (forget which poster’s) ass? Ooooh no!!! Look out for Bear!!! :rolleyes: I don’t think that is even half as bad as the thousands of people here who have aluded to drilling a hole in the someone’s head and fucking thier brain through the skull. If I had time to search, I am sure I’d find you were one of the thousands. Get over it.
kamell,
First you say some bullshit like this. Then you say,
So then what’s the big deal??? That’s all I was bitching about. Sorry I used offensive mean cuss words… oooooooooh. This is the fucking pit by the way.
I think you are pretty damned confused pulykamell. The Pit is for people to bitch about things. Don’t be suprised if someone comes in here to complain about another person’s actions.
Yeah I agree. I mean geeezzzz get a grip! Typing some angry words on an internet message board? My god, you’re practically a berzerk barbarian! It doesn’t get much more out of control and violent than POSTING! Sheesh!!! I, for one, will be double checking the locks on the doors tonight, let me tell you!
To be precise, I never said you didn’t. I said I was scared of such people.
If you had said to me in person the things you wrote in your posts, I would indeed be leery of being alone with you.
:shrug: Hey, I’m sure IRL you’re a nice guy who’d never suggest ramming a chainsaw up someone’s ass. But all I have to go on are your words here. And it sure sounded like you’d like to commit violence.
Opal, so you don’t mind if I call you a cunt and envision a running chainsaw jammed up your ass?
:shrug again: Whether the sarcasm was necessary or not, you do have a valid point. I think Bear’s reaction was extreme, online or no, and I told him so. You think my objection was extreme, and you told me so. No harm, no foul, I guess . . . I suppose I don’t draw as much of a distinction between my behavior online and my behavior anywhere else as others do. My personal choice is not to say anything online that I wouldn’t say in person, so that’s how I tend to evaluate the posts of others. I just need to remember that some folks do behave differently online.
I think the difference is not so much online vs offline as it is anonymous ranting versus confrontation. If you called me a cunt, etc to a group of people that don’t know me, that I don’t know, and in fact my name was never mentioned… I’d consider it just you getting your anger off your chest in a harmless way.
You and me both, pal.
I always ask myself: “Would I say this in a crowded bar and get out alive?”. If the answer’s “no”, my message needs rewording.
Anonymous ranting? Sure, be my guest. But don’t be surprised when people actually form an opinion of you based on that ranting.
I believe this is the flip side of “Remember that there’s a person on the other end,” or however you want to phrase that nugget of netiquette. Personal judgments can bite you in the ass in both directions.
Form an opinion? Sure. You might think someone is a bit of an asshole. But do you really think that he is DANGEROUS because of this rant?
Yeah, I’m with andros here.
just adding my two cents.
Bear – Dude, bitch away. I don’t give a flying fuck about your cuss words. I just thought you were a bit extreme (I’m apparently not the only one out there) and, well, just told you so. Listen, I’m confused? Like what, I’m supposed to agree with your rant and say “word up, motherfucker? May the bitch fry in hell!” “This is the pit,” as you said. Don’t be surprised if someone tells you your wasting your anger on a silly cause. Have a nice day.
I dunno about Bear_Nenno, but I freak out to (relatively) closed audiences all the time. If I feel slighted (and it truly is if I feel slighted, sometimes I’m wrong), I might tell the next buddy I grab a coffee with that I had to deal with such an idiot today. And usually I’ll toss in an excess of colourful language and interesting anger-oriented phrases to make the conversation a little more interesting for the other people. Talk of snapping feet off in arses and whatnot, it makes for some laughs and that’s how I get over the irritation.
I personally wouldn’t have been nearly as interested in BN’s post if it had been “I had an egg hunt today, and some woman’s daughter ran off with a prize. Some nerve!”
For my money, that’s not a good rant. BN was blowing off some steam in a perfectly safe environment. It’s all good by me. I can’t see him snapping at this woman IRL; it sounds like he was only really angry after this had brewed for a while. Up to that point it was more disbelief than anything else, it seems.
FD.