Yes, and I did reference it; Zusje was put on phenobarbital straightaway. I mentioned it again because the vet made the argument that I didn’t need the valium because the pheno was supposed to eliminate the seizures; while that is an exceptionally rose-colored expectation of the outcome of medicating her, even if it ultimately happened it was nonsensical in response to my question about what I was supposed to do to cope with Zu having cluster episodes in the middle of the night.
And I did not know you have epilepsy, that’s a drag. I’m sorry. (In addition to two dogs, my eldest sister developed epilepsy at 30 following a bout with encephalitis and it persisted until the end of her life. Not fun stuff.) I hope the meds are better now than they were in my sister’s day; her teeth were trashed by dilantin, among other things.
Nowhere has it been said that either the sharing (which is the verb you use above) or the consuming was recreational. The consumption was always by persons legitimately dealing with the conditions the medications are designed to treat.
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Are you unaware that different people have different reactions to the same medications? How did you know those people were dealing with the conditions those medications are designed to treat? How did you determine that there would or would not be any affects with those medications interacting with other medications those people may have been taking? I mean, sure, there’s a possibility that you’re a qualified medical professional. Somehow, giving your posts in this topic, I don’t find that to be quite likely though.
Are you unaware that different people have different reactions to the same medications? How did you know those people were dealing with the conditions those medications are designed to treat? How did you determine that there would or would not be any affects with those medications interacting with other medications those people may have been taking? I mean, sure, there’s a possibility that you’re a qualified medical professional. Somehow, giving your posts in this topic, I don’t find that to be quite likely though.
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Thank you. With the meds I’m taking, I have it mostly under control nowadays – I haven’t had a grand mal in about six years. Since then, I’ll have the occassion focal seizure, but that’s only been in the case where I’ve been sick, or else forgot to take my meds. (They’re not fun – they make you sleepy as hell, but no, my teeth are fine)
I must have grown up very sheltered because it is a grave offense in my mind to take a prescription medication when you don’t have a valid script for it and in my circle of family and friends that is simply Not Done.
“Legitimately” by Stoid standards does not appear the be used in the usual sense of ‘condition was diagnosed by a medical professional and drug was prescribed by said physician on the basis of that diagnosis’. Instead, ‘legitimately’ seems to be 'well, Valium is a sedative, and this person got bad news, so I’ll dose 'em up to calm ‘em down’ or ‘well, the guy who kind of does yard work but not very reliably says that he needs Xanax to treat a condition, but I won’t actually verify that’.
As an early supporter of Stoid in this thread, I would like to clarify, in light of the conversations she now having here. I continue to believe that she honestly wanted the Valium to control her dog’s seizures and she was not trying to scam the vet. But that’s it. I don’t endorse the rest of what she’s saying, and it is easy to see, from Stoid’s posts, why the vet would have been reluctant to give her Valium.
Being able to talk about one’s problems without the listener visibly backing away is helpful. Plus there’s the ability to talk about it without friends, family, or HR getting all advice-y
About the drugs. If insurance companies in the US would let patients have as many as they needed, there wouldn’t be sharing. I have had months where I have 15 migraines and six Zomig to treat them, and others where I have no migraines but still get those six pills. If a migraneur friend of mine happened to have a few extra Zomig, well, you know what would happen. Yes it’s illegal, and I’m sure it’s wrong, but who sped to work today? Speeding cars kill a lot more people than Zomig, why didn’t you plan ahead and leave for work earlier? I’m just not feeling the outrage here.
About a third of the population has shared prescription drugs among family and friends. So if you don’t know anyone who has ever done it, you are quite sheltered. And whatever the wisdom or stupidity of such sharing in any given circumstance (and pretty obviously it is sometimes terribly stupid and sometimes not a big deal), I’m surprised to see the full-throated support for making it an act for which we put people in the ol’ rape cage.
I’m neither surprised nor troubled at Stoid’s vet’s behavior, and find her special pleading and antics tiresome. But the sentiment painting Stoid as a dastardly do-badder for sharing some Vicodin with a friend is a far more destructive character defect, in the grand scheme of things.
Well, if we expand the category to anyone who has committed a crime, that would mean pretty much having no friends. Maybe that describes you. I don’t know. But it doesn’t describe most people.
But my point was limited to friends or family who have shared a prescription drug, which as I pointed out is frequent enough in the population for it to be unusual not to know such a person.
You’ve botched the comparison here too, which was comparing this kind of puritanical, evidence-free belief in the efficacy of criminalizing this kind of thing to the antics of Stoid being pitted by the OP.
There’s a huge difference between occasionally sharing a small amount of a drug with someone close to you who you know has a legitimate use for it and casually sharing a variety of often abused drugs with people you barely know. “My friend needed one more tablet than usual this month, so I gave her one I’m not using” is really different than “My friend had a bad experience, so I brought her Valium” or “the guy who unreliably does yardwork said he needed Xanax, so I lent him some”.
Sharing prescription drugs is already illegal in every state AFAIK. Do you know of any where it isn’t?
It’s actually bringing Valium to a friend unsolicited when they got some bad news, ‘lending’ Xanax to a guy who sometimes does yardwork, and the statement that this is routine behavior among her friends. Just to be clear.