…these are two things that don’t need to be in conflict. We don’t pick one or the other. Both need to be protected.
I’m not going to cop to something that I simply don’t believe.
Disingenuous rhetoric, check.
…lack of sense of humour, check.
You ARE picking one over the other by denying the conflict.
…I’ve done no such thing.
Seriously? The ‘it was just a joke’ defence. Straight out of the gaslighter’s handbook.
…oh give me a fucking break. Sometimes a fucking joke is just a fucking joke. We had been arguing over “that truth is subjective”, you stated that “well maybe one of us is wrong” which left me an opening for a zinger (admittedly a not very funny one) and I took it. That isn’t gaslighting.
You donated to an organisation that denies there is any conflict.
…I haven’t picked one side over the other. “I have done no such thing.”
Stonewall says there isn’t a conflict. You quoted me as saying there isn’t a conflict. So my money went to a good place I suppose.
If there a new definition of compassion?
JK Rowling clearly demonstrates compassion when she is able to imagine herself as young teenager who might have been caught up in the gender ideology movement.
Unless compassion means something else now.
…being compassionate means not saying stuff like " I have little patience with emotional appeals about suicidal transgender people ". Just FYI.
You mean that was actually meant to be a joke?? No offence, but I wouldn’t quit your day job.
JK Rowling didn’t say that.
Here again you are conflating an assertion (“Stonewall says…”) with fact.
I agree that trans rights shouldn’t conflict with women’s rights. Trans rights are human rights. That is not the same thing as believing trans women are entitled to everything women are. The problem is that this is what the movement is pushing for. It’s exactly why “what prison should this penis-having pedophile who claims to be a woman go to?” is even being seriously entertained right now.
…LOL. I conceded it 'wasn’t a very funny one". That you had to literally followed that up with a “don’t quit your day job” is actually laugh-out-loud funny.
It was the best I could do, I don’t think what I wanted to say is allowed in this forum…
…I haven’t conflated anything I paraphrased Stonewells response, I never asserted that it was a fact.
What the movement is pushing for and what you claim the movement is pushing for are two different things.
So I’m JKR now? Wow, let me check my bank account.
By the way, my patience is limited for emotional appeals. I have a lot of compassion for people suffering from poor mental health and suicidal thoughts. I just don’t see what the existence of suicidal trans women has to do with any of the questions I’m asking in this thread. Because surely you’re not positing that women should open the doors to anyone who wants in lest they cause someone to kill themselves, right? This can’t possibly be your argument.
This is not true. Stonewall and other campaigners are exactly why “what prison should this penis-having pedophile who claims to be a woman go to?” is even being seriously entertained right now.
…I never claimed that she did.