Jack-ass Dean Tyler

No, man…I can get you some forbidden stuff. Real quality shit!
Make you see Jesus!

Or Robert Downey, Jr.

inkblot

You know, JDT, you keep on saying "David B. . . . " this and "Ask David B… . . " that.

Have you perhaps not noticed how David B. isn’t supporting you here? Or is that part of the Great Conspiracy?

Actually, Shlomo Ockham (they made him change his name from Ockhamovski at Ellis Island) was a celebrated early 20th century mohel. Shomer shabbos all the way.

I think (a) David doesn’t spend all that much time in the Pit, being busy moderating GD and (b) David has long since given up on JDT as a lost cause.

Bingo.

I guess, David, that you’re now part of the great Foreskin Coverup.

Sounds a bit redundant to me . . .

blessedwolf,

> I may be a little off here, but Jack, it seems that up until a certain point in your life, you blindly accepted EVERYTHING you heard or read, without question or thought. <

Yes, when I went to the system schools. What can I say, I thought that they were telling me the truth. It wasn't long before I realized that they were just a bunch of flunkies, though.

> Then one day you said to yourself, “Okay, I’ve believed enough. NO MORE!” and stopped believing ANYTHING, no matter what the proof. <

Yes, sort of.

>And figured that made you a bona fide, card-carrying skeptic (sceptic would be more on base) <

Well, I approach matters by comparing hypotheses and deciding which one is most probably true. I do this knowing that the future will give me more information and therefore a clearer picture and that this will cause me to update my original hypotheses. That's what makes me a skeptic.

> --wait! I forgot…I started this as a PIT thread, not GD! You’re a fucking putz! <

"&lt;snivel, snivel, snort, snort&gt; (W)ait! I forgot &lt;snort&gt; . . . I started this &lt;fart&gt; as a PIT thread, not GD! &lt;vacant smile&gt;"

"You're a fucking putz!"

     "(P)utz," sounds like a word some moron would use as though anyone knows what he's talking about.

> There. I feel better.<

There &lt;snivel&gt;. I feel &lt;snort&gt; better &lt;fat, dumb and happy, but serious, facial expression&gt;.

iampunha,

>Have you perhaps not noticed how David B. isn’t supporting you here? Or is that part of the Great Conspiracy? <

No, David B. has made it very clear that he doesn't support me (no rationale given, just a dogmatic reaction, apparently). That's why I suggested that anyone who questions Robert Sheaffer's reputation consult David B. David B. is going to have any bias in favor of any of my positions. So, some persons might consider David B.'s opinion on Robert Sheaffer, to be valuable.

Uh… ok, so you’re just ignoring all the reasons given and assuming a dogmatic reaction? Okaaaaay.

> Uh… ok, so you’re just ignoring all the reasons given and assuming a dogmatic reaction? Okaaaaay. <

What reasons would those be, OpalKitty? I guess that silence does speak pretty loud sometimes, though.

To those of us who know anything about WallyM7, it makes total and complete sense. To those of us who are putzes, it does not.

Guess what that makes you …

[Takes deep breath]

Jack. Jack. Pull up a chair, and listen, my child. At the risk of earning the Putz-Oscar-Extraordinaire, I must take a moment and say a few things to you. You’ve really covered a lot of ground here. Even though I’m an intelligent individual and love a good debate as much as anyone, I’m going to instead address you personally. Jack. Jack the man.

You’re passionate about your subject.
You are pretty polite to everyone in spite of all the resistance you’ve encountered to your ideas.
I really don’t think you are here for the express purpose of pissing people off. [granted, you have pissed a lot of people off, but so be it]
You don’t seem to swear or otherwise speak in a hostile manner.
You appear ostensibly to enjoy educating.

See? You’ve got a lot of nice qualities, Jack.

I’m not sure why this one topic is the all-consuming deal in your life. It doesn’t matter, really; you know, it’s ok to have a passion, a cause, a whatever. It’s part of creating ourselves. As someone older and wiser, however, let me tell you one thing: this whole circumcision thing? it’s really not all that important. It really isn’t. No. It’s not. Trust me. Have I ever flamed or insulted you? Do I have anything to gain by putting you on or pulling your leg? There’s a lot of other really big stuff that’s worth fighting for, that’s worth investing your time and energies. Stuff that’s bigger and more important than this.

While other posters have tried to tell you this in the past, I felt I nevertheless must make one more attempt. You’ve got a lot going for you Jack. Someday soon you will find a lovely man or woman (doesn’t matter which) who will love you precisely for what you are; and all the rest of this stuff that seems really important? it will just fall away as it becomes clear what is important.

It’s ok if you’ve had negative experiences in the past. It’s ok if you’ve felt lousy for various reasons beyond your control. You can get beyond all that, Jack. Listen to me, son. It’s really, truly, and honestly OK if no one is there to carry the anti- circumcision torch. Jack? Are you listening? IT’S OK. You’re still a good person without this particular badge of honor. You can put it down now.

Jack Dean; Jack be Nimble; Jack Sprat; Jackdaw; the Jackster. Foreskin or no, today is the first day of the rest of your life, man! Get out there and live it!

So, how’s the Tug-Ahoy going? If you care, your posts are starting to sound as disjointed and bizzare as the last person who had a “meltdown” on these boards for all to see. Wasn’t pretty then, ain’t pretty now.

Anyhoo, I got MY new sig out of it. Thank God someone recognizes the plight of Robert Downy Jr., and how “persecuted” he is. Do you think he’s cut? He’s probably going to be pretty hard up for work when he gets out jail this time, maybe you could slip him a 5 spot and take a few “scientific research shots” of him!

Zette

Zette,

> Thank God someone recognizes the plight of Robert Downy Jr., and how “persecuted” he is. Do you think he’s cut? <

Robert Downy, Jr. is one of the very few celebrities that I don't know if he is cut or not. Jack Nicholson is another celebrity whose status is unknown. My bet is that Nicholson is intact. I don't know about Robert Downy, Jr., though. Could he be intact? He does seem like a really nice guy. I've heard some people say that Robert Downy, Jr. is gay or bi. But, if that's the case, he sure isn't a promiscuous gay because his status would be known in a second if he was. Even if he was a promiscuous straight, his status would be known before too long. He could be intact.

How the hell am I supposed to carry on with my life without knowing this??? Could this be the cause of his persecution and drug addiction? The mind reels…

Zette

Can I just point out that Jack Nicholson is a right little fuck bunny and has been for many decades.

Veeery odd that we don’t know the details of his dangly bits. Shouldn’t this be a matter of public record? Don’t we have the right to this knowledge? It would help immensely in the development of my own theories and research if I only knew.

Jack, my boy? Any chance of some free and frank exchanges with you? I mean you are so interested in the details of others that surely you can see why the teeming millions need to know what is going on with your todger?

And dammit! I wanna know just what a TugAhoy feels like before I invest in one for Mr Primaflora for Christmas!

::tug::
“OW!”
::tug::
“OW!”
::tug::
“OW!”
::tug::
“OW!”
::tug::
“OW!”

That’s my guess. Anyway, it’s been fun, Jack- and thanks for the sig. I’m done playing with you now. What a total “freak” you turned out to be.

Zette

Zette

that sounds ideal! I could use it to make him behave!

drpepper,

> See? You’ve got a lot of nice qualities, Jack. <

Well, thank you very much.

> I’m not sure why this one topic is the all-consuming deal in your life. It doesn’t matter, really; you know, it’s ok to have a passion, a cause, a whatever. <

OK, I have failed to make myself clear on my motivation here. Let's set aside the moral obligation that all decent people take upon themselves to protect helpless people, such as infants, from harm. Let's assume that it's all about me. You're saying that it has something to do with my finding some passion in order to define myself. Maybe you're right to some extent. You're saying that I should just leave it alone and just live my life and be happy. I'm afraid that we just don't see things the same way. Just like the founding father said, &lt;paraphrase&gt; the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. It is because people here long before I was born were not vigilant that today we are all faced with a sexual holocaust. It is because of this lack of vigilance that today we are looking at the very real potential for our civilization to be destroyed. No, no, no. It's part of my daily routine that I am vigilant and that is what allows me to relax and be happy.

> As someone older and wiser, however, let me tell you one thing: this whole circumcision thing? it’s really not all that important. It really isn’t. No. It’s not. Trust me. <

Trust me, sir. MGM as it affects the modern world, is the single most important issue that the human race has ever had to deal with. No plague, no war, no famine, no natural disaster, can even come close to comparing with MGM. Some very deranged people have caused the very fabric of society to become inferior.

> Someday soon you will find a lovely man or woman (doesn’t matter which) who will love you precisely for what you are; and all the rest of this stuff that seems really important? it will just fall away as it becomes clear what is important. <

Anyone who falls in love with me is going to have the extra bonding experience of working with me to stop this sexual holocaust. 	

> Listen to me, son. It’s really, truly, and honestly OK if no one is there to carry the anti- circumcision torch. Jack? Are you listening? IT’S OK. You’re still a good person without this particular badge of honor. You can put it down now. <

No, it's not OK. They need to leave those babies alone. We need to hold this heavily damaged society together long enough to replace these damaged men with normal men. And, we need to try and fix these damaged men.
It isn't as if one can just ignore this problem. It's made our day to day lives very dangerous.

> Foreskin or no, today is the first day of the rest of your life, man! Get out there and live it! <

That's what I do everyday---with a clear conscience, thank you.