"jag-wire" is simply not an acceptable pronunciation, right?

Now, as far as word definitions and usage goes, I definitely have strong descriptivist leanings.

But, you can’t just pronounce any old word like a tardo and call it gravy.

Or maybe I’m too harsh. . .I know that people have problems with formations like “nuclear”, but does this same problem really apply to jaguar?

Sure, it’s wort of a mouthful, but saying “jag-wire” does not alleviate the mouthful part of it (that g-w combination).

Shit, give it a go with jag-wore or something and then work on the real pronunciation.

Am I missing something? Is it really that tricky?

You live in a city where people say amBAlance for ambulance and wooder for water.

I have ceased to be surprised by odd pronounciations of words, but then again I work with a group of people almost exclusively from West Baltimore.

You’re right about ambalance.

This was brought on by this week’s AFC wild card games, and that means we’ll be hearing it a lot more over the next week. Mike Ditka is especially bad about it.

Does ANYONE pronounce it “jag-wire”? I’ve never heard that.
Everyone I know pronounces it “JAG-wahr”. Some commercials have a British-accented voice soundng out all the vowels – “JAG-you-are”, which sounds pretentious and false to my ears.

But never “jag-wire”

I probably say “jag-wire” too…yup. Just said it out loud and I certainly do. But I’d feel like a bit of a ponce if I said it like the announcer in the car adverts and said “Jag-u-wahr”. Midwest accents aren’t pretty.

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You’re right about ambalance.

This was brought on by this week’s AFC wild card games, and that means we’ll be hearing it a lot more over the next week. Mike Ditka is especially bad about it.
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You bad-mouthin’ the way Baltimorons talk, hon? I grew up in Gardenville, where everyone pronounced Jaguar the way you describe, and tires were always “tarrs”. Well, except in my house.

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You bad-mouthin’ the way Baltimorons talk, hon? I grew up in Gardenville, where everyone pronounced Jaguar the way you describe, and tires were always “tarrs”. Well, except in my house.
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Then what were they? Recliners?

Kidding!

I watched a documentary about the Cold War two nights ago with a very well-spoken Northern Irish woman doing the voice-over, who repeatedly referred to “nuc-u-lar” escalation. GWB, I take it all back - you only do it occasionally; this woman did it about twice a minute

Me, I pronounce it “JAG-you-[schwa]”, but I appreciate that though correct in my accent, this is a bit odd.

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Does ANYONE pronounce it “jag-wire”? I’ve never heard that.

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A shitload of people do it around here (North Florida) and they have plenty of opportunities, since the Jacksonville football team is the Jaguars.

I think a good slapping of offenders would be appropriate.

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Then what were they? Recliners?

Kidding!
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Good one. Actually, we had a bus tire in the back yard which we used as a sand box. On the pronunciation thing, my parents struggled mightily to quash the most egregious elements of the Baltimore accent, but we all said “wooder”. I eventually overcame even that.

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Does ANYONE pronounce it “jag-wire”? I’ve never heard that.
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Yup. I say “jag-wahr”, but I had a lit professor in college who said “jag-wire”. I don’t know where he was from, but in spite of his really impressive erudition, that always made him sound like a yokel to me. I can’t recall why that came up in a lit class, but I still remember it very clearly.

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Good one. Actually, we had a bus tire in the back yard which we used as a sand box. On the pronunciation thing, my parents struggled mightily to quash the most egregious elements of the Baltimore accent, but we all said “wooder”. I eventually overcame even that.
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But, did you warsh your tahls?

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Does ANYONE pronounce it “jag-wire”? I’ve never heard that.

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Steve Jobs does, and he’s from California.

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A shitload of people do it around here (North Florida) and they have plenty of opportunities, since the Jacksonville football team is the Jaguars.

I think a good slapping of offenders would be appropriate.
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Yeah, that’s how I’ve always pronounced it and I’m from Gainesville. (and my dad had an old “jag-wire” so I grew up saying it) It just sounds Southern to me.

Well, that’s taken the wind out of my sails! I don’t want to slap you so I guess I don’t get to slap anyone else either.

Rats.

I also live in Baltimore where it is pronounced Jag-Wire by everyone except for me since I’m not from around these parts. In Baltimore, I’m from Yerp.

More fine Baltimorese: Earl (oil), Tarrs (tires), Zinc (sink), chimley (chimney)and the favorite…‘Downy Owshun’ as in ‘This summer, we’re going downy owshun hon’ as in we’re going to the beach.

I pronounce it “Jagular,” as in
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That’s what Jagular’s always do. They call "Help! Help! and then when you look up, they drop on you.
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:slight_smile:

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Well, that’s taken the wind out of my sails! I don’t want to slap you so I guess I don’t get to slap anyone else either.

Rats.
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Eh, you can get still get annoyed by it. :slight_smile: My personal pet peeve: pronouncing “picture” as “pitcher” which is the common pronunciation in these parts. Still grates every single time and my friends are so tired of me bitching they now say “piKKK-ture” with a deep, throaty Greek growl.

I don’t get huffy about it, but I have heard many folks saying Jag-wire (and Val-vo, too.)

I’ve always said Jag-wahr.

In Jaguar car ads, I have heard Jag-wahr and, more often, Jag-you-ar.

The Spanish explorers/plunderers spelled the native word for the cat, Hahg-wahr. In Spanish, that’s spelled Jaguar.

The cat’s name for itself? I can only guess, from its blood-chilling cry. I can’t quite spell it, but it’s a drawn-out Yeow. :eek:

Just remember that no one drives a Porsh.

In German, if there’s a letter, you say it.

I live near Washington state. Actually, BC is so close to Washington state that it touches it for some miles. I love those Washingtonians who say they live in Warshington. They have idears. I have idears too. My idear is: where does that “r” come from?

BTW, some of my kin say “chimley”, too. So even in the nicest families.