James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

^^^ You people started it by not ignoring what it is that I had a right to say which is why you are here. If y’all had just ignored what i had to say, you never would have seen another word out of me about subject, but now thanks to y’all, here it is a month later and the subject is still alive and kicking.

If the beliefs of another person hurts your feelings, that is not their fault when you can choose how you feel about anything.
God bless you two always!!!
Holly

Yes, it can be their fault. Where you got the idea that people aren’t responsible for the impact of the words they say is simply beyond me.

The difference is YOU don’t care. Most people don’t operate with this level of disregard for the feelings of the people we share this planet with.

We don’t care what you believe. That is between you and God. I believe in not hurting people for no good reason. You pushed your beliefs - in a hurtful way, i might add- into a memorial thread, and the onus on *us *to ignore you? You have no Christian duty to give a tinker’s damn about anyone who is not you (or your own personal friends or family, as I know you have said you wouldn’t say such a thing to people you care about ) - and we are the ones who started it? By objecting to you being needlessly hurtful?

Honey badger don’t care.

I never mean to hurt anyone when I share my beliefs, but I would rather be honest instead of sparing a person’s feelings by lying to them.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
P.S. Like if y’all were to cook a meal for me to eat, if it ended up tasting terrible, I would not lie to y’all by saying that it was awesome. I would tell you exactly what I thought of it and why I had such thoughts about it.

Refraining from saying something nasty is not the same as lying.

Just so I have this straight: do you mean to say some of the things you do are justified, absent hearing the voice of God telling you to stop? Did I understand that correctly? How wonderful for you to not have to rely on scripture or others beneath God, such as your pastor, to help you frame your thoughts and behavior.

You have the world view of a toddler. Maybe you’ll stick around, maybe not. But if I see your name in other threads, I’ll have to leave, as if someone had ripped a large, greasy fart in the middle of the conversation (beg pardon). We’re not solving world problems here, but a bit of give and take is expected. No one wants their conversation dominated by a child unable to stay on topic, or to even find it.
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“Hey, um, wanna know, um, I went to the James Otto concert, and um, there was pizza there, and um, James sang my favorite song, and then, and then, and then he said hello to me, and then, um, my goldfish got sick, and then I wrote him an email, but he didn’t send me back an email, and then, um, yeah, suicides burn in hell. What? Why are y’all ganging up on me?”*

Your claim to the right to post anything anywhere is the same as my right to poop in the punch bowl. But I shouldn’t be surprised or offended when the other guests take me to task for it. You’re over thirty years old, woman. Isn’t any of this getting through to you?

Cretin.

So say nothing. Don’t lie and don’t hurt. Be honest if asked, if you must.

Society requires the balance between your right to do what you want and other people’s rights to not be intruded upon.

We live our lives finding the balance.

You went too far. People were being honest with you. The decent thing to do is apologize- not for your beliefs but for intruding them into where they weren’t wanted and actually hurt people.

^^^ When at a public message forum, I don’t have to wait until I am asked in order to share what it is that I believe. You people didn’t wait until I asked y’all what it is that y’all think about me, did you? No.

Is anything that I say getting through to you?

I wouldn’t be nasty, but I would without a doubt be honest about what I thought. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:
God bless you three always!!!
Holly

It is nasty in its content, not by your tone, especially in the context of the thread you said it.

It is hurtful.

Bullshit. That’s exactly what you want, for everyone to see how moral you are, how upright you are, how saved you are.

Your say “Bless you” with your lips but “fuck you, sinner” with your heart.

^^^ I wish no harm on anyone and I never mean to hurt anyone when sharing what it is that I believe in no matter what y’all think.

Like I said, I would not intend to be hurtful, but I would not lie to your face either.
God bless you two always!!!
Holly

Offering a hurtful opinion *unsolicited *IS saying something nasty. Is anything we are saying to you getting through to you? Not one person said, gee, what happens to suicides in the gospel of Holly? YOU WEREN’T ASKED. And if you cooked me something, and I spit it out and called it absolute shit, that would also be RUDE and yes, nasty. If you cooked me something and it was in fact absolute shit, I would - IF ASKED - tell you, in a polite way, that I didn’t care for it.

It’s not lying to not be rude.

So say nothing. Your right to say what you want does not trump someones right to be left alone.

You keep missing the obvious choice. Be quiet.

Whoops sorry! Damn my conclusion jumping. You are welcome for the kind words. :smiley:

Nobody asked me to leave them alone before I shared what it is that I believe in. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

A person doesn’t have to wait until they are asked if what is being talked about means enough to them.
God bless you two always!!!
Holly

Goddamn, you are so fucking full of yourself. Unreal.

The BIG point is that it’s not always about you.

Where death and grief are concerned it almost never is about the other person.

^^^ I never said that it has to be about me. We were talking about those who commit suicide which is obviously a group of people that you will not find me in. You people decided to make it about me by starting this chat in the first place!

And you people are so full of yourself, no wonder there is no room for me!
God bless you two always!!!
Holly

There’s not even room for God in that fucking overinflated skull of yours.