Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

Based on the persistence of their tenure and their approval ratings among their base, it’s hard to see how they’re wrong, actually.

Yes, I was thinking as I typed that, it was basically a Republican politician job description.

OR… they’re playing up to their masses. “They subpoenaed us; we’ll subpoena them!” Throw some red meat to the proles, knowing it has no meaning whatsoever.

Or a combination of projection and stupidity. Some of them have shown themselves not to be the brightest bulbs. So they could well believe, because they’d do it themselves if they could, that there’s nefarious backroom dealings that will never see the light of day.

But either way, it won’t affect them. If there isn’t anything, they’ll still pound on that drum for years (Benghazi! Emails! Tan suit!) and either suggest there’s double secret files they haven’t yet gotten or that they’ve found incriminating texts or emails so shocking they need two weeks to figure out how best to release them to the public.

Recently I’ve begun to idly wonder how many conservative black market baby rings there are in the basements of pizza places. Maybe that’s why they’re so against abortion.

The House Resolution that creates the special committee does say:

If these rules stay the same and the House switches party at the start of next year then, yes, what you say is correct.

I find it somewhat unlikely, though, that Pelosi would keep these rules in force, having the knowledge for about a month, that the work product of the Committee is going to become the property of Jim Jordan.

I would expect that the Committee members will take home copies of most of the material so that they can mitigate selective leaks with more complete versions of the material. But that’s not a solution the greater risk that those who are criminally implicated are able to get access to a list of witnesses and start sending them threats and bribes.

If the House flips, at least some portion of the materials need to be rendered inaccessible in some way. My guess would be that there’s some way via amendments to the resolution, House rules changes, asking the Executive branch to designate materials “classified”, sharing materials with the DOJ without keeping a copy, etc. to legally spirit the materials away.

At that point, if Jim Jordan wants to reconstruct the witness list, he would need to subpoena the former members of the committee.

Packets! They’re going to release the packets in two weeks!

Remember when TFG actually gave the healthcare plan to Lesley Stahl on 60 Minutes? Yeah, me neither.

This is bonkers. None of that is going to happen.

This was mentioned on this thread earlier, but I think it’s worth discussing. Mike ‘pillow’ Lindell offered to testify, but they ignored him. And he is furious about it.

Now, anythhing that angers Mike Lindell is automatically funny. But aside from that, why haven’t they subpoenaed him? He can supply a lot of information. Just for a start they can ask him about his discussing martial law with the President. I think he would happily provide enough evidence to jail him and a lot of others.

Let him rant about his conspiracy theories. Then ask him about how he presented this information to the President, and how the President reacted.

I think he could be a key witness.

What an asinine idea. Nobody, not even conservatives, take Lindell seriously.

There is no good reason to have him testify. Given his public flailing these last couple years, any testimony he does give, even testimony that seemingly incriminates him or anybody else, cannot be trusted. He arguably has mental health issues and should be getting help, not given a national spotlight.

He’d only be there as a sideshow to point and laugh at, and they have much more serious business they have to attend

He was a witness to many key events, and probably a direct influence on Trump’s actions.

Nobody, except the freakin’ POTUS (at that time).

You say that as if it’s a bad thing!

He’s a road apple. Had no official power, his word is shit, and he does nothing for the committee’s reputation for seriousness.

Moderating:

It’s not going to happen, so let’s stop hijacking this thread with idle speculation about non-events.

To all, please, again, let’s try to keep the discussion tied to actual January 6th hearing events in some way, and at least within the realm of possibility. Thanks.

I believe it’s very credible that members of the House Republican party are under criminal investigation or that they will be, eventually.

At the time that they’re indicted, their lawyer can request access to the evidence against them. Prior to that point, though, those materials should be inaccessible to the accused.

Handing them to the DOJ without keeping a copy in the House archives seems like a fairly simple and straightforward method to accomplish this, if nothing else, and that was in the list of options. The DOJ has already requested those materials.

If the Democrats win the House then the question is moot. But if they lose, I expect that certain things will go missing - either through official acts or through more subtle and questionable processes - and that there genuinely will be subpoenas flying.

That is unless the persons under investigation have already been indicted by then. I’m not expecting that, at Garland’s current pace. I think he’s targeting the 2024 election, not this one.

This is definitely not going to happen. The very idea is crazy.

#shrug

Ultimately, the world will do what it’s going to do, regardless of what we think. Certainly, one of us is wrong. We’ll find out in about 6 months.

It’s definitely you. There will be no, “The dog ate my homework,” shenanigans. That’s not how these things work or have ever worked. The idea is preposterous.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/441240-mattis-ignored-orders-from-trump-white-house-on-north-korea-iran-report/

In sufficiently crazy times, even reasonable people are sometimes drawn to wild and crazy measures.

And this is the House of Representatives that we’re talking about here. Sober and reasonable isn’t the average - even on the Special Committee.

I’m a moderate. The witness list needs to be protected. It’s not some optional nicety. If you have to play dumb and hide stuff in your shoe to sneak it out of the building then that’s just what you do.