Jane Fonda STILL pisses me off...

I know it’s kind of long, but I received this in an e-mail from a freind. It doesn’t say what org. is awarding this honor, but I’d sure like to know if it’s true.

Does anyone think Janes’ behavior can ever be excused or forgiven?
later, Tom.
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Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the “100 Women of the Century.” Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot’s
name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the “Hanoi Hilton.” Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American “Peace Activist” the “lenient and humane treatment” he’d received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon the camp
Commandant’s feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.

Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the “Hilton”- the first three of which he was “missing in action”. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a “peace delegation” visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man’s hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: “Aren’t you sorry you bombed babies?” and “Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?” Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of
the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge … and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col.Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a “black box” in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We
were Jane Fonda’s “war criminals.” When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said
yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as “humane and lenient.” Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of “100 Years of Great Women.” Lest we forget…“100 years of great women” should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane’s participation in blatant treason, is
one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

Charles (Skip) Klingman
Asst. Professor of Music
Southwestern Oklahoma State University
Weatherford, OK 73096
(580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795

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Has Jane Fonda ever offered any explanation/excuse/defense about her actions in Vietnam?

with all due respect, even in the Pit, please check the facts first?
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at the very least, just hate her for what she actually DID do, or not do or whatever.

I remember all too well.

filthy (disabled Viet Nam Vet)

[QUOTE}Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. [/QUOTE]

rule of thumb: any email that ends with a request to forward to as many people as you can is fake. the originator just wants to see how far it’ll spread.

crap. forgot to preview.

I’m still in love with the pre-war Jane Fonda.
I never pass up a revival screening of Barbarella.

And if you’ve never seen her in Tall Story with Anthony Perkins, you don’t know how much sex appeal she started with. The shower scene made her reputation, even though it was the men’s shower room and she stayed dressed.

I agree with filthy, she’s a bitch and definately not worthy of the title of “one of the ‘100 Women of the Century.’”

nonetheless, thanks for the link wring, you’re right, she did enough to deserve the title of bitch without any appellations.

I guess that answers my question about the truth in it. My apologies for not finding it in the limited search I did. Still can’t stand her though…
later, Tom

I think 30 years later we need to put Ms. Fonda and her actions during the Vietnam War in a little better perspective. To call her a “traitor” doesn’t make much sense to me now when we have so called “citizen militas” operating in this country that are armed and ready to go to war with the government. Whether you sympathize with some of their philosophies or not the “Randy Weavers” and their kind are the true traitors to their country. They are willing to use force and often times end the lives of innocent people just doing their jobs in order to get their point across. Was Ms.Fonda misguided in her efforts, probably. Did she go about showing her protest of the war in the wrong way, very probably. But she was exercising her right to free speech, and doing so in a non-violent way. She wasn’t the only person during that time to show her hatred for that war in a non-productive way. She also isn’t the only celeb to use their status to support a cause. But to call her a traitor doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Many people believed as she did at that time, as long as they operated within the letter of the law then they were not being traitorous, they were exercising their rights as Americans.

Should she be one of the “100 Women of the Century”? What the hell for, she isn’t even that good of an actress! Please don’t tell me they can’t come up with 100 women who actually can claim to have done something of impact in the past century? I think having her nominated for the list is a little scary. We women need to get our asses in gear if she’s the best they can come up with.

Needs2know

N2K,
Your naivete is showing again.

I can’t defend the militias. They’re mostly a bunch of Bubbas with really repugnant racial views and a dim idea of how government works. I will point out that as loathsome as Randy Weaver was, his wife and infant didn’t deserve to be shot by FBI snipers.

Jane Fonda gave aid and comfort to the enemy. she participated in anti-American propaganda that endangered the welfare and morale of our soldiers. That’s treason.
If Jane Fonda had protested against the war, that would have been an exercise of free speech. When she actively helped in the war effort of North Vietnam against the US, that made her a traitor.
You can protest government policies (and certainly the vietnam War was a horrible waste of American lives) and still be a loyal American. Sometimes protest can be the highest form of loyalty if the government is betraying the principles of our democracy, but YOU DON’T TURN ON OUR BOYS!

For some the answer is “no”, despite the fact that the story is a well-known lie.

picmr

The stories in the OP are lies, but Jane fonda DID go to North Vietnam, she DID broadcast anti-American propaganda on
North Vietnamese radio, and she DID call vets who told about their harsh treatment by the Reds, “hypocrites and liars.”
Jane Fonda was, and is, a traitor to the people and government of the United States.

I love this site. Somebody posts information of dubious verity (no offense hflathead. after all it’s still a valid question) and somebody else is immediatly available to debunk it.

As to the valid question: traitor? how 'bout just idiot? Had I not been occupied with learning to walk and speak at the time I think (I certainly hope)I would have protested our being in Vietnam. But how do you go from being against war to embracing the Viet Cong? How do you go from rejecting the bullshit our govenment was handing us to swallowing somebodyelse’s? Even if you think Vietnam should be Communists, how can you think the Viet Cong were just a lovable bunch of folks who would never abuse anybody?

Speaking as a woman, I believe deeply that we could come up with several hundred greater women than her in this last century.

Hell, we could come up with at least a hundred better actresses.

What exactly were the criteria to choose Hanoi Jane as one of the top 100 women of the century?

Have to agree with N2K, she’s not even that good of an actress.

And yes, I think she’s a bitch.