JD Vance Discussion Thread

(The receptionist’s name is Dawn.)

Just to show you that it’s not just an American saying.

He named his dog Atlas. Of course he did.

Here’s an article about Vance’s sit-down interview with Tucker Carlson. There’s a lot to it, but this quote jumped out at me:

“Said Vance: “We do a lot of interviews. President Trump is doing a ton of interviews with hostile media, with friendly media, with everybody in the middle. “

Has he, though?

What difference does that make? Vance wants it to be true.

The difference it makes is that MAGATs who don’t watch or read anything other than right-wing media are being told by Vance that Trump is doing “a ton of interviews with hostile media,” and since they don’t expose themselves, at all, to what they’d consider “hostile media,” they’re likely to take Vance at his word.

Shucks, his idol and exemplar used the big one last year in a public speech, so JD is just trying in his own insufficient way to emulate him in potty-mouthity:

I had to break the link (rejoin you & tube) to get it to load – the “event” is at 19 sec.

https://www.you tube.com/watch?v=kxQuKuTmpCE

[Sorry y’all I just can’t seem to remember the trick for posting video. Why does it have to be so difficult??]

Hide/collapse the “preview” window that is to the right side of your post-composition window; that usually works for me.

“Ass-crack of dawn” is a Tom Waits line, and in context is pretty funny.

He’s going for “regular approachable working class Midwest guy you’d wanna have a (domestic) beer with.”

But since he’s really a lizard-person he can’t fake even unwashed 'Murrican very well. Despite having been born and grown up as one.

Agreed. Instead, he comes across as “crass fake dude who’s trying too hard, says inappropriate stuff in hopes you’ll find it funny, and whom you wouldn’t trust to date your daughter.”

There’s a sticky in Site Feedback for this now:

Yep. It didn’t even occur to me that, the way it was said, it could have been sarcastic. I did check replies (which didn’t say anything at the time), but I didn’t think to look for a longer clip or check for news coverage. Definitely my bad.

Once reality can’t be told from satire, the converse becomes true as well. Satire can’t be told from reality.

Or, as Tom Lehrer said:

“Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel peace prize.”

I agree; to you, and me, and the world, the truth does matter. However, the question “has he, though?” sounded as though it was being posed to Vance himself. I was trying to explain Vance’s thought process, not my own. He wants it to be true, so he says it, truth be damned. Hell, maybe he’s so self-deluded that he even believes what he says.

The burning question is, does he let the dog get up on the couch?

No way. My Daddy said that his whole life.
And he was old.

:wink:

Latine id est $CC, amice

You don’t have ask for the category and value to be revealed in the form of a question.

If the revealed answer in the “logical fallacies” category was “JD Vance says cars seats prevent babies” I might respond with “What is an example of the post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy?”