Discuss.
You first. What do you think of it?
At least one of those photos looks like a Dodge Durango. Hope it is not simple badge engineering. Then again, not sure what the world needs is another lux ute.
From the looks of it, I don’t like it. But that’s me. I’ve had and driven the two-door wranglers and currently have a 2019 Altitude Cherokee.
I guess it’s just way too big for my taste. Maybe if I was a family man or something.
I noticed in the write-up some “duh” things to know. Like it having modern features and new styles. That’s pretty much a no-brainer.
Jeep. Invest in comfortable walking shoes, or an Uber account.
I, myself, am a bit leery of this incarnation: though apparently it is built upon the underpinnings of the Ram 1500 pickup, that vehicle is the product of Chrysler under the tutelage of Mercedes, and now FIAT.
I’ll let that statement speak for itself.
I think there’s something ridiculous about how Jeep is acting as if this is some extremely distinctive design that captures any of the charm or bears any meaningful influence of the original vehicle, when in fact it looks very similar to all the other offerings in its class - I thought I was looking at a Suburban with a little extra bodywork at first. It’s an uninteresting design and I think it will be a poor seller. Jeep’s mainstay is the Wrangler platform. And it’s successful because they have made minimal changes to the formula.
I’ve been working with car brokers for the past two years - doing inventory photography and marketing - focused on classic American muscle cars and trucks, and European imports. So I’ve spent countless hours examining the design of hundreds of vehicles by now, and gotten a little seat time in all but the most high-dollar consignment sales - and the more I’ve spent at it, the less regard I have for the way modern vehicles are designed.
I might as well add, there are a few exceptions: Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi, Jaguar, and (surprisingly) Buick, have all maintained a level of tasteful design over the past few years. I don’t think highly of many other makes and marques when it comes to recent styling, though.
Looks to me like a boxier Range Rover. So many sharp corners squared off, even the wheel arches are squarer.
I think the Range Rover is a much better and cleaner design. The lines of that new Wagoneer are all over the place, and they’re ugly. IMO.
I’ve never had problems with the Jeeps I’ve owned.
You should buy a lottery ticket, you lucky Bas… Bass player.
So, I read the article and watched the video. Ug! The video brought it home for me in a way that the article didn’t. All I saw in that video was a Jeep Product, but not a Jeep. Much like the Jeep Patriot is a Jeep product, but not what I’d call a Real Jeep.
That thing was ugly. Vaguely reminiscent of a Toyota Sequoia that had a baby with a Ford Focus.
Just Yuck!
Also, I’ve never understood the thing about Jeeps always being broke down. I’m on my third Jeep, and the patriot, as much as I hated that pos, was pretty reliable. The old Grand Cherokee was very reliable, in spite of being a $600 car. My current Commander is great. I don’t get it, why do people always say “get walking shoes” or whatever when taking about Jeeps?
It’s nice, but it’s not a ‘real’ Jeep (as DorkVader explained). With prices above some of the top Grand Cherokee models, I’m not sure what kind of market they’re expecting here – I love my Jeeps, but I’m pretty sure people with that kind of money to spend on a vehicle aren’t looking at that brand.
I also think that Jeep would have been wise to reserve the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer names as replacements for the inevitable time when it’s no longer acceptable to name vehicles after Native American tribes (although I haven’t read too much about this issue since the introduction of the new Cherokee in 2013).
What happend to the first two? 
Well, the old Grand Cherokee was an '86 full size body on chassis. 86 was the year that the new smaller body on frame style came out (about mid year iirc). I sold it because at the time I couldn’t afford the fuel bill (v8 awd horrible mileage) the patriot I got rid of because, 1) I hated it from the start. (Wasn’t originally my car, long story) 2)it didn’t have problems often, but when it did they were expensive problems. In fact the whole time I owned it (about 8 years) it only ever broke down 3 times, compared to the ford contour, timing belt replaced annually, Pontiac 6000 (litany too long to go into) the ranger always had something broke, the chevy s10 was outstanding, never anything broke on that, anyway, I think that should give you an idea with out running down the list of vehicles I’ve owned over the years
…another gigantic lux ute.
I hate trying to park next to one of (generically speaking) those things in a parking lot. No-one who drives one apparently knows how to put it between the lines (not to mention that they don’t really fit between the lines in the first place). Same with those gigantic 4-door pickup trucks.
We’re considering getting one. It’s a debate between the X5 and the grand wagoner.
Our grand Cherokee has been great we’ve owned it for 6 years and put 60k miles on it and the closest we’ve had to a problem was the battery died 2 years ago. We bought it two years old with 13k miles on it. It’s just too small. With a full size car seat behind me my knees are into the dash and my feet go numb after a couple of hours. Before that we had the grand Cherokee svt we had that for 3 years and traded it in for the current GC because the fuel costs were to high plus we had a car payment while we could get our current GC without a payment with that as a trade in.
The new generation of wranglers are smaller than the previous one so I no longer fit which is the only thing that kept me from buying a gladiator a year ago. We’re jeep people and have had nothing but good luck which is why the GW is in the running against the X5.
This really. I’ll never buy another Jeep again with how horribly unreliable my 2002 Grand Cherokee was. It was by far my favorite car to drive. When I actually could.
That was my Wifes experience as well. It a great car when it was working though. Perfect size for us, great in snow (and that’s comparing it to other 4x4’s)