Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor

Some guy named John Barron.

182 pounds according to his mugshot. Not overly heavy for a six foot tall man.

I’m not sure how tall he was and all photos that I’ve seen had him in fairly thick/baggy clothing but, in the photos I saw, he looked like he was fairly buff with a bit of gut. If you’ve seen Stallone these days, I’d guess a pretty similar physique.

(Apologies to Sylvester Stallone for using him as a comparison to the pedo creep. I am purely talking about body shape. No other comparison is intended.)

My bad. I should have checked other sources before posting. This undermines the actual investigation into Epstein and his crimes and those who were involved in the sexual abuse of underage girls. It allows Epstein’s apologists to dismiss anyone who wants the truth. Who knows? Maybe the part of the conspiracy is to disseminate false information, let people promote it, and the discredit any and all valid accusations?

Dude, you’re not supposed to read your job description out loud.

Or…there are stupid people on Twitter.

Yes, he was found hanging in his cell according to the NY Post.

*”Jeffrey Epstein was found hanging in his lower Manhattan jail cell with a bedsheet wrapped around his neck and secured to the top of a bunk bed, The Post has learned.

The convicted pedophile, who was 6 feet tall, apparently killed himself by kneeling toward the floor and strangling himself with the makeshift noose, law enforcement sources said Monday. He hadn’t been checked on for several hours, sources said.”*

Note this isn’t the classic hanging scenario, where you’re hanging from above like a hangman’s noose. The sheet was tied to the top of a bunk bed.

Well said. It is never helpful to disseminate unsubstantiated gossip about anyone involved in an ongoing scandal or controversy (or anyone else, for that matter). It merely deflects attention from what needs to be investigated.

:rolleyes: Oh FFS. Immediately after acknowledging that it’s counterproductive and distracting to muddy the waters of an ongoing investigation with unsubstantiated gossip, you jump right to manufacturing and disseminating more unsubstantiated gossip about it.

And you’re going to have to provide a cite for your claim that anybody at all is an “apologist” for Epstein or is trying to discredit any valid accusations against him. AFAICT, if there’s one thing that everybody across the political spectrum seems completely agreed on, it’s that the late Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophilic piece of shit whose disreputable activities are going to taint a lot of people associated with him.

Froderick Fronkensteen or something.

I ran across this AP article:

Basically, Epstein was not taken off suicide watch prematurely. On the contrary, he was on it twice as long as usual. When you are on suicide watch, your bedsheets and normal prison clothes are taken away and replaced by a heavy blanket and clothes that rip easily (so that they make bad materials for hanging). You are only given finger foods because you can’t have utensils. The lights are on constantly, even at night. You are not allowed to shower, exercise, or have visitors or phone calls, and you are only let out of your cell an hour a day. It’s torturous and prisoners are rarely kept on it longer than 3 days. From what I can tell, he was kept on it for up to a week.

So there was no chance of him being on prolonged suicide watch. It’s something done to a prisoner in cases of acute suicidal actions and for short periods of time.

Is Ghsilaine Maxwell in Paris? Or Boston? Or at a fast food restaurant in Los Angeles?

officially ruled a suicide

Jeffrey Epstein's cause of death was suicide by hanging, law enforcement officials say | CNN

By the way, upthread people wondered how he could have committed suicide in a jail cell. The New York Times article on the medical examiner ruling says, “He appeared to have tied a bedsheet to the top of a set of bunk beds, then knelt toward the floor with enough force that he broke several bones in his neck, officials said.”

Were we expecting The Illuminati to tell their minion to say otherwise?

So just like the NY Post said. I’d expected them to get some detail wrong.

“Knelt with force”…really?

When you think about it, it becomes less plausible.

I know self-strangulation is possible with the scenario that’s been described. But the broken bones still seem…a stretch.

(puts on sunglasses)

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Fine. But if “knelt with force” doesn’t become A Thing, I’ll be very surprised.

I assume “knelt quickly”, as opposed to kneeling slowly. You could jump first or just let your knees go instantly slack to fall downward quickly. Kneeling slowly would just strangle you.

Again that’s my interpretation on what they meant, I’m not a doctor or forensic scientist or anything.

This article discusses it:

An article on the mechanics of hanging:

Chris Cornell killed himself in a similar manner, IIRC.