Jeffrey Dahmer

Hey in Pakistan i.e where i live, this sick bastard killed over a hundred children by drowning them in barrels of acid.Nobody in the neighborhood had a clue and after his hundredth murder,he wrote a letter to the policen informing them that he was surrendering,however no trace of him was found, they found the remains and stuff of the victims and caught his accomplices,he wasn’t caught after a massive manhunt,and it was not until he offered himself for arrest by walking into a large newspaper office and requesting an interview.This guy was a big sicko.This happened less than a year ago but i wonder why it wasn’t publicized since i don’t think anybody but jack the ripper can compare to this guys sick saga.
Bye
Zeeshan

Zeeshan,

That wasn’t huge news over here in the states but It was mentioned for a day or two. If that guy did as he claims, he is seriously fucked.

Dammit, I thought the US had the market cornered on serial killers in the last 50 years. Guess not.

EJsGirl:

My point wasn’t to relay the grossest story in history, I was just surprised at how bad of a business decision that seemed to be.

Well he had evidence of his crimes and this includes the pictures of all his victims along with their clothing and shoes and the barrels used for acid along with more evidence. No trace of any of the children has been found. He was marvelous in eluding the police but he was so damn fucked. He felt no remorse,no compassion,he was intelligent and realized what he was doing but he justified it as his way of getting even.

How can anybody be so fucked up? I mean i can’t even kill cockroaches 'cos i can’t stand the squishing noise so my mom thinks i’m a sissy 'cos i can’t kill them, but these people can be so cruel.:confused:

Dahmer was of course a cannibal which makes him sicker even though the scores are 17:100

I wonder how many murders were attributed to Jack the Ripper and well i haven’t heard of him being caught.

Bye
Zeeshan

The Ripper killed five or six prostitutes, I believe…
To this day, they never knew who did it…

Jack is very, very mild compared to most of the serial killers that came after him. You have to take in to consideration the era and the fact that serial killers were relatively an unknown.

Again, the only proof that Dahmer ate any of his victims is his word only. According to the type of serial killer profile he fits under, the need for shock value fits right in.

As far as the Ed Gein lunchplate, sick humor is a common way humans accept horrifying and gruesome things which they have no control over. Dehumanizing it makes it much easier to accept and a little less scary.

I don’t feel comfortable expressing sympathy for any of these guys until I can give the name and details of the life of at least ONE of their victims, which I can’t without looking it up. My extending these killers compassion would feel too much like a one-sided judgement without all the facts. But that’s just my guts talking, maybe.

The only psychopath victim I can name offhand is Sharon Tate, victim of a psycho not brought up in this thread yet.

On another note, from Diane’s post earlier,

See, when you take out the parts that directly involve the killing and the crime scene, these profiles sound like me and my friends! :slight_smile:

So don’t piss us off…

APB - You may want to read a few books written by Ann Rule www.annrules.com. She is by far my favorite true crime author. She does an excellent job at letting you know the victims and has enough respect for their families to leave out the grusome details of their death. Not to say that she candy coats the details of the crime.

The information I quoted was an example of how the common traits of serial killers can also fit so many normal people. They seem to fit a certain profile although it isn’t an exclusive club, if you know what I mean.

Oh, and just so you know, I am a first born. :smiley:

Forgive this huge post. This is something for which I have a very strong opinion.

Re: Punishment/Death Penalty

How many of you have actually had to choose the fate of another person’s life?

My mother recently served on a high profile first degree murder jury. For those living in Utah, she served on the jury for Paul Allen.

http://www.desnews.com/cgi-bin/libstory_reg?dn00&0002100132
http://www.desnews.com/cgi-bin/libstory_reg?dn00&0002180158
http://www.desnews.com/cgi-bin/libstory_reg?dn00&0002230130
http://www.desnews.com/cgi-bin/libstory_reg?dn00&0002250107

She says that it was by far the hardest thing she has ever had to do in her life, even though she has absolutely no doubt in her mind that Allen is guilty. She thanks God that the court dropped the death penalty in this case.
Still, the jury and other court workers attended group therapy once the trial was over to deal with everything they had witnesses in court as well as the responsibility of someone’s fate.

Initially, the victim’s family and some of the public were upset that the jury gave Allen the possibility of parole. However, once the jury explain to the family the reasoning behind their decision, they accepted it fully.

“Yengich said Allen, 30, won’t even come before the Board of Pardons for 20 to 30 years and added that Allen’s mother, Theresa Jacobson, likely won’t live to see her son leave prison.”

The reason they gave him the possiblility of parole is that he will be an old man by the time he goes before the board. If he wins parole, he will be thrown out into society as an old man, no family support (according to certain facts that came out in trial), no employment skills, he will have nothing. Life for him would be much easier if he were allowed to live in prison at tax payers support until his death.

Do I feel bad for Dahmer? Hell no! Just as I didn’t feel bad when the State of Utah executed the Hi-Fi Killers, Pierre and Andrew.

The night Pierre and Andrews walked into the Hi-Fi Shop in Ogden Utah and took the young employees, one of the employee’s friend, and two parents who had come to see what why their kids hadn’t come home from work, down to the basement, tied them up, raped one of the women, forced them to drink liquid Drano before taping their mouths shut, kicked a ball point pen into one father’s ear, then methodically shot each one at point blank range, was the night they lost all rights to be called human beings. Human beings who have a right to live.

This murder hit very close to home. My aunt and cousin were working that night in the camera shop next door. When they left, they were witness to the white van parked behind the rear door of the Hi-Fi Shop. They assumed that someone was making a delivery. A robbery list found in one of the killers military baracks showed the camera shop was the next “hit”, right after the Hi-Fi Shop.

Before one of the victims, Courtney, walked over to the Hi-Fi Shop to meet his friend, he stopped at the camera shop next door to pick up his mother’s Hawaiian vacation pictures. He was friends with my cousin so he stayed and talked for a while, telling her how he had just taken his first solo flight at the airport. He left and walked into the Hi-Fi Shop where the robbery was already taking place.

Courtney barely survived (after puking up most of his Drano damaged insides and being shot in the head), although his mother was one of those killed. She had come looking for him when he didn’t come home. Before the murder, Courtney was a very popular and outgoing athletic teenager studing for his pilot license. He is now physically, mentally, and emotional disabled and struggling through life. My family still knows the family well.

There is a book written about the murders and his struggles (my cousin is even mentioned). I would suggest this book to anyone. It may make you look at the death penalty for extreme cases a little more differently.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0871137356/qid=966722544/sr=1-1/102-6480679-2064911

Clipped from Amazon.com

The other survivor was the father of one of the boys working. He was found wandering the street with a pen kicked into his ear after the murders.

I also know this man as he worked for years with a member of my family. He is an amazing person and has gone on to live a productive life. However, his wife wasn’t able to handle the tragedy, although she wasn’t one of the victims.

She seemed to be handling the death of her son and attack of her husband fairly well until a few weeks after her son’s funeral. She slowly sank into her shell until she was no longer able to function. She no longer spoke, she could no longer feed herself, she could no longer use the toilet, she could no longer bath herself. She looks out the window all day long and sometimes calls her son’s name,

Her husband has spent his life working a full time job and then coming home to take over the duties from the homecare staff. He baths her, feeds her, reads the newpaper to her, changes her diapers. A few years ago he retired from a good job as a civilian at the airforce base to take care of her full-time. The general public is not aware of her condition. She has been this way for 26 years.

These animals destroyed the lives of many people. Although I do not believe the death penalty should be given in 99.9% of murder cases, I do think it serves it’s purposed in situations such as this. In fact, I truly feel regret that their deaths were so painless and Drano-free.

I will say that I expected to feel wonderful when I heard word of the execution. I expected to jump up and down with joy.

I didn’t.

I felt a sense of closure and pity.

Clearly the death penalty was an appropriate sentence for the people diane described. And as a mother, daughter,and wife I can only imagine the horrors these people went through.

Demonizing people like Dahmer, Bundy, etc., is easy. But we also need to try and figure out how they lost their humanity, and why, in order to help prevent more of these monsters from being created.

The national media was entertained by Dahmer for a week back when he was caught. I live in Milwaukee, and our news, radio, and tv carried on for month after month debating him. They talked about Dahmer almost as much as they talked about Lorena Bobbit.

FWTW, I ride past Dahmer’s childhood house on my way to work. It’s across the street from a Nursing Home-type place in a pretty decent neighborhood.