[QUOTE=Shodan] This gets locked after eight posts and garners the OP a warning. This goes on for three pages.
How surprising.
Regards,
Shodan
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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]
Watch it, Bub. We don’t cotton to your kind 'round these parts.
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Yes, he better watch it, or the buddies of Helms are gonna send some nice free enterprise and deeply religious Central American death squads to take care of him..
.. All kidding aside (except the part of Helms helping the monsters that killed Romero and thousands of other Salvadoreans), I get the impression that many right wingers can not identify a reprehensible human being and act like it is proper to forget the reprehensible acts that he made. Many say that a funeral is for the living, if the living want to act like Helms was a good role model it is important then to be allowed to mention the rotten legacy Helms is leaving behind.
[QUOTE=Shodan] This gets locked after eight posts and garners the OP a warning. This goes on for three pages.
How surprising.
Regards,
Shodan
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Not really.
I thought the locked thread was a real pitting of the liberals of this board couched in words that are too subtle for liberals. It was no fake pitting. If they did get it, then to criticize liberal board members is a trolling offence.
This thread isn’t pitting anything at all. It’s celebrating a death. Should be in IMHO. Oh, it might be said its a pitting of Jesse Helms for previous behavior, but that would be as stale as currently pitting Kennedy for Chappaquiddick now that he’s been in the news again.
Clarence Darrow once said, “I never wished anyone dead, but I’ve read some obituaries with considerable satisfaction.” That’s about how I feel. Helms, for all of his many faults and odious qualities, did not rise to such a level of unmitigated evil (Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, bin Laden, serial killers, child sex abusers, etc.) that I’d exult at his death.
I will say, though, that I think the United States is far better off without him.
Jesse Helms has gone to rest
Gone to lie on Satan’s breast
By the God who makes the trees grow
I hope Satan is a Negro.
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The last two lines don’t scan, but the only alternative I came up with was really foul.
[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]
What’s that court case where one famously “refers to the answer in the matter of” whatever, which basically tells the guy to go to hell?
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“We refer you to the answer given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram”
The British satirical news magazine, Private Eye wrote an article about some guy named Arkell and illicit payments. They had bags of evidence to back up their claims. Arkell’s lawyers wrote to Private Eye’s owner Pressdram, announcing their intention to sue for libel and stating: “Our client’s attitude to damages will on the nature of your reply.”
Private Eye wrote back to say: “We would be interested to know what your client’s attitude to damages would be if the nature of our reply were as follows: Fuck off.”
[QUOTE=shefDave]
They had bags of evidence to back up their claims. Arkell’s lawyers wrote to Private Eye’s owner Pressdram, announcing their intention to sue for libel and stating: “Our client’s attitude to damages will on the nature of your reply.”
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:smack:
Should be: “Our client’s attitude to damages will depend on the nature of your reply.”
[QUOTE=Steve Wright]
I agree with Skald and others. No matter what you might think of the man, celebrating his death is … well, tasteless, if nothing else.
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You can consider me tasteless, then. Jesse Helms has done nothing deserving of my respect, and was only human by biological definition.
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
Yes, I am saying that. Mama taught me not to HATE anyone.
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[QUOTE=Liberal]
When I lived in Charlotte, I was surprised when my landlord, who was gay, began praising Jesse Helms during a conversation that somehow drifted in that direction. I asked him how he could possibly like someone who couldn’t give less of a rat’s ass about him. “But he does care about me,” my landlord said, and proceeded to tell me about how difficult it had been for him, an anesthesiologist, to get to the scene of an accident when he was needed. It turned out that he had written a letter to Helms describing his plight, whereupon he got not only a personal response, but legislation in the state assembly a couple months later that began with a call from Helms’ office, authorizing anesthesiologists to use the same sort of light-and-siren attachments that were being used by other rescue personnel. “You know,” my landlord said, “gay is not the only thing I am.” I think it was the first time that concept really hit home with me.
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Helms was narrowminded in a lot of ways, but nobody ever said he was incompetent, or not committed to his constituents’ interests as he understood them.
[QUOTE=atomicbadgerrace]
You can consider me tasteless, then. Jesse Helms has done nothing deserving of my respect, and was only human by biological definition.
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The man’s dead. That means our respect or contempt means nothing to him any more. Dancing on his grave affects him not one whit; it only serves to demean the dancers.
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
Helms was narrowminded in a lot of ways, but nobody ever said he was incompetent, or not committed to his constituents’ interests as he understood them.
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As I mentioned upthread. He was an asshole. A racist, bigoted asshole. But he was an honest asshole who cared about his constituents. Everything he did, he did for what he thought was his country’s best interests.
I’d take that any day over our current senators who seem to only look out for their party. Hell - the only reason why anyone has seen Liddy Dole this year is that she’s up for re-election.
My favorite quote from this election season (paraphrased) “Unlike Mrs. Dole, my husband can actually vote for me.” - Kay Hagen
By the God who makes the green trees grow
I hope that Satan is a negro
it would work, I think.
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The last two lines scan perfectly well – with each other – in their original form without “green” or “that” – 8 syllables to each line. You’d have to cut words to make them scan to the first two lines, 7 syllables each.
