Jewish Dopers: latke question (and a few others)

I Googled “boxty recipe,” and the first ten hits all had buttermilk in them, except for one that asked for just plain milk. A few commented that they were a way of getting rid of leftover potatoes-- you had leftover boiled, mashed or baked potatoes, and you made a batter for pancakes the next morning, apparently, then if it needed a little more for the whole house, you could add some grated raw potato.

So, apparently, 2 things: milk is a key ingredient, which separates them from latkes right there, since a latke recipe would always be parve, since many people eat dairy on the first night of Chanukah, but meat the rest of the time, so you need a recipe that works with both. Then, the raw/cooked may be measured in a recipe from the internet, but there was no real standard in recipes of the past.

Not to mention, latkes were never a way of getting rid of leftovers. Since they were made for a holiday or festival, they would be made fresh. Unless it was during a famine, or some other really dire circumstance, you would never use leftovers for a celebration in Jewish tradition.

Nonetheless, they seem pretty similar. Not the same, but similar.

Although latkes are particularly well-known, it seems, outside of Judaism, probably because of their association with Chanukah, it seems to me that most traditions have some sort of potato pancake or dumpling. I’ve had them at Indian restaurants, Ethiopian restaurants, Greek restaurants (in actual Greece), I had them in Costa Rica, I understand there’s a Cajun version, and there are certainly versions in New England that are part of traditional cooking there. Every country in E. Europe seems to have one; they season them differently, and to different degrees, but they are essentially the same.

To what extent are Jewish latkes similar or different from Eastern European potato pancake versions that are not specifically latkes?

It depends on the country. Czech ones are big, pretty spicy, served with beer, and sometimes cheese, if you’re going to sub a big snack for a meal. Russian ones are more like something halfway between a knish and a latke. Slovak ones have milk in them (and so do the Czech ones, I think). Not sure about Polish or Hungarian-- sure they have them, but what makes them particularly “Polish,” or “Hungarian,” I don’t know.

My Czech ones have milk in them, just a touch, with an egg as binder. No recipe, just assemble it by eye. Sour cream and applesauce on the side.

I “assemble my latkes by eye” as well, which is actually how I do most cooking, but I have a written recipe, because so many people have asked me for it. I had to get each ingredient ready until it looked right, without mixing them, then measure everything, and write it all down, then, make it, and see how they turned out, making a few adjustments in the written form afterwards.

OTOH if you go into a German Christmas market right now and get one from a street vendor, I’m not sure there is anything different about it: no buttermilk or cheese or pieces of pork. Maybe some onion, and the pancake served with some apple sauce or other fruit preserve. I would imagine that the Jews in any particular country are eating more or less the same local variant that everybody else is scarfing down, except for obviously non-Kosher ingredients. Though, I have to admit, I have not extensively researched this.