Jews and the Apocalypse

In the End Times (according to Revelation) the Saved (born-again christians) will be Raptured…snatched up directly to Heaven, bypassing bodily death and Judgement.

Apparently, in the Qur’an, Muslims will undergo something similar called the Qiyamah.

Do Jews believe in something similar? Is there anything in Hebrew Eschatology analogous to a rature-like event for the Children of Israel?

As posed, this is a General Question with a factual answer, (even if different Jewish groups would give different answers).

Off to GQ.

There’s no rapture-like event in the sense of some living people being snatched up to heaven or anything like that, but there is Jewish eschatology, which involves the coming of Messiah, universal peace, and the resurrection of the dead.

The Rapture is a result of selective reading by evangelical Protestant audiences. It is not part of the theology of Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Methodism, et al. for many other churches. The world may end, but it won’t involve a thousand year period of fighting Satan on earth.

Jewish eschatology.

Will there be provisions for the resurrected dead? Housing? Language classes? Job-retraining? Programs to introduce them to modern technology and mores?

Any place to get a good brisket?

The question becomes how wide spread is the Resurrection concept in Jewish belief. As a Jew raised in a Reform congregation and as a participant in a Conservative one for most of my adult life, my only exposure to the concept has been in vague allusions … and in some explanations about some historically older death rite traditions.

The emphasis in general has been 99 to 100% on this world here and living on through the impact of our acts, and less than 1% to zero on concepts of resurrection or afterlife.

Is the Resurrection concept more widely held in a literal sense among Orthodox communities? (Checks … not Friday night!)

It is, as is the waiting for the Messiah. But it’s not surprising, if you look at the origins of the Reform movement. Reform was influenced pretty heavily by the German Enlightenment and similar trends going on in German Christianity, especially a downplaying of the “mythic” and “supernatural” aspects of the religion.

Yes, the belief is present, and quite strong, including a brief mention in every prayer service (last line in 2nd blessing of Amidah). But the details are almost nonexistent. I can see how even moderate cynics would say that the omission of details is a very convenient way to hedge one’s bets, but my feeling is that the whole idea of resurrection is so incredible that the presence or absence of details pales in comparison. I’m plenty curious, but not in any rush.

Please forgive my incredible ignorance. Does that mean all dead? Or, just the “good” dead. Hitler’s not coming back, right?

Just the righteous dead. No Hitler.

From a Christian perspective, Judaism (taken as a whole) is amazingly unconcerned about the afterlife in general, and the raising of the dead with the comming of the Messiah in particular. These are important issues for the Orthodox, but for other denominations - not so much.

What is constant is the notion of a future messianic age - the more liberal denominations do not, necessarily, interpret this as an event in which the dead literally rise from their graves. More a time of universal peace.

My understanding is that Jewish post-death concepts like Sheol derived from Zoroastrian beliefs.

According to Jewish eschatology the resurrected will eat Leviathan

I am unclear though on what the emphasis was when historically.

From what I can read there was a split in emphasis even in ancient Israel times, let alone into the Middle Ages and Maimonides take. I don’t think resurrection and/or afterlife was ever as key of a concept as it was for Christianity, but, if I understand the points made in this thread correctly, the current non-Orthodox take of being pretty much completely unconcerned with the afterlife in general (we’ll have time to find that out then or not as the case may be when it happens; doing right in this life is enough to handle for now), is more an outgrowth of the Reform movement’s being influenced by the German Enlightenment. (See Captain Amazing’s post.)

How far off is that?

I’m not sure, to be honest. I know that the Conservative Jews’ take on the afterlife is, well, kinda agnostic; not sure about the historical roots of this.

From the “Statement of Principles of Conservative Judaism”:

In short, an aknowledgement that these doctrines exist; a statement that they have, “In the course of our history” been “… understood in widely varying ways”; and a statement that some folks take them literally and others figuratively - and perhaps “literally” means ‘through your genetic survival’.

Similarly, they affirm a “gradualist” approach to messianism:

As for history - well, the impression I get is that the Torah itself isn’t very focussed on such matters; and that Judaism may have developed a greater interest in such things - for a time - in part as a reaction to the fact that both Christianity and Islam find them very important.

Only if it is smoked and Nova.

I was raised Conservative (reform side of Conservative, men and women could sit together in shul) and it never came up. As mentioned, the only influence is in burial rituals which try to preserve the body as much as possible for the resurrection, though I’d hope that God could put people right no matter what we do to them.

Will we eat the Cenobites too?

Back To The OP

IIRC After moshiach comes-

He will get the Promised Land back.

All Jews will move to live in the Promised Land.

All humans will acknowledge the G-d of Judaism and follow the Seven Laws Of Noah.

The righteous shall be resurrected bodily.

Humanity shall go back to vegetarianism. (According to the Torah, humans were not allowed to eat animal flesh til Noah and clan survived the Flood).

The lion shall lay down with the lamb.

Nation shall not lift up sword against nation.
I can’t remember what order these are supposed to happen in.

Re Righteous Gentiles

OTTOMH Some Jews agree to buy a certain gemstone, for the breastplate of the High Priest, from a non-Jewish man. They agree on a price. The man goes off to get the stone from the chest he keeps it in. He finds his old dad is taking a nap and is resting his feet on the chest. The man goes back to the Jews, to explain that he’ll have to give them the stone later.

“I can’t get it right now.”

“Okay, okay. We get it. We’ll give you double what we agreed on.”

“No. I can’t get it right now cause I don’t want to wake my dad. And I refuse to take extra money just for doing right by my dad.”
So, we have a gentile honoring his father (just as per the commandment) and being scrupulously honest. The general thing the sages take away from this is that a person of any religion can be righteous.

The Flood, or the expulsion from Eden? What was Abel doing with his flocks?

Considering the only women alive were his mom and sisters … better not to enquire. :wink: