Interesting story Ulf. Can I ask how it played out? Maybe having one person like that on the City Council isn’t a bad thing. Or not. (I’d allow for one Libertarian as well, on a trial basis.)
Driving 40 miles round trip for groceries has to more than eat dime-an-item savings.
Peremensoe–depends on how expensive gas is and how good your gas mileage is, I suppose. But in my experience, the price difference between a supermarket and a smaller grocery store is usually more than a dime an item, often considerably more than that, and if you’re stocking up those price differentials can give you some significant savings. In any case, there certainly were people in the community who *believed *they couldn’t afford to shop locally and believed they were saving money by traveling 40 miles.
Measure for Measure, the supermarket did get built. The town zoning board or planning commission approved it, much to the dismay of some of the more vocal opponents of the project. I don’t recall if the town board voted to sign off on it, or if they simply voted not to contest the zoning commission’s decision in court, but construction began soon after the planning board issued its ruling.
I pass through the town occasionally and visit it once in a blue moon, and it doesn’t look like the supermarket has brought in significant numbers of riff-raff (of course, I may be a riff-raff myself and so don’t recognize the problem). I know some residents said they were going to boycott, and for all I know they did boycott and still are refusing to shop there; but they pretty clearly aren’t a majority of the town, so the supermarket is still very much a going concern. And yes, they do sponsor little league and youth soccer teams :).
Dime an item? Ever heard of Costco? Sam’s Club?
Update time. Stein had this to add to her comments in a Washington Post interview:
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“As a medical doctor, there was a time where I looked very closely at those issues, and not all those issues were completely resolved,” Stein said. “There were concerns among physicians about what the vaccination schedule meant, the toxic substances like mercury which used to be rampant in vaccines. There were real questions that needed to be addressed. I think some of them at least have been addressed. I don’t know if all of them have been addressed.”
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She’s still trying to thread that needle, but the mercury comments make it obvious she’s believing the quacks rather than the science. If she’s going to parrot that rhetoric, I’m comfortable categorizing her as anti-vax.
Thanks for the link. I’m upping my assessment to “Vaccine scare monger”. Because she had the opportunity to recommend that kids get their vaccinations, and passed it over. She also made the dubious argument that distrust in the vaccine approval process had a rational basis: [INDENT][INDENT] Stein’s warning about corporate influence in the vaccine approval process is often voiced by “anti-vaxxers.” In reality, most members of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee work at academic or medical institutions, not drug companies. But for Stein, the fact that people saw corporate and lobbying influence running rampant meant that some skepticism was warranted. [/INDENT][/INDENT] This is unhelpful and delays human progress.
Jill Stein Explains Her Plan to Stop Trump by Electing Him President
Srsly. Never mind that it’s gibberish.
We had to destroy Ms. “It Takes a Village” in order to save Ms. “It Takes a Village.”
Anyone know how the Green Party’s ballot access is going? I think a few deadlines have passed - four just today and Friday I understand.
I saw that but it isn’t updated, it’s “as of July 10”. Common Dreams reports they got on in Kansas, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, New Jersey, Vermont, and Missouri which are still “pending” on the GP website.
It’s the Green Party’s own website. Complain to them, not me.
Not complaining - I’m just saying I don’t think 24 is right.
I’ll probably vote for her, although I certainly wouldn’t advise anyone living in a swing state to do so.
I’m not 100% on board with the Green platform, or particularly impressed by their track record, but Stein’s worldview is clearly much closer to mine than Clinton’s is. Given the incalculably tiny chance that my vote in Illinois would affect the outcome of the election, making a statement for peace, socialism, and ecological sanity seems like a more productive use of the vote than tossing it on the Hillary pile.
The Green Party caught a break in Illinois a few cycles back and broke the minimum support level to gain ballot access during an especially unpopular election ( I want to say it was the Blagojevich vs Topinka race). A cycle later, they lost it for lack of support. Stein is a horrible candidate I’d never vote for anyway but I can’t even vote Green on some “Oh, it’s good for third parties” stance since they don’t know what to do with an opportunity even when one is handed to them.
My goodness. If she had any chance of actually becoming President, she’d be as scary as Trump. Fortunately, she’s just a joke candidate.
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Do you have some reason to believe that her degree from Harvard Medical School is faked? If so, why do you think they subsequently invited her back to join the faculty?
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Did you read the article you linked? It doesn’t say what you said it does. Also, please cite where she criticized vaccinations.
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Is Stein correct in saying that the EU has stricter regulations governing wireless exposure than the US does? If so, why do you feel that the US regulations are better grounded in science? Please feel free to provide your own professional credentials in support of your thesis.
Thing Fish, MD
It most certainly did:
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Person from crowd: What about the wireless?
Jill Stein: We should not be subjecting kids’ brains especially to that.
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And the vaccine issue has been discussed multiple times in this very thread.
Best I can find is that she is not correct.