I find myself trusting news articles less and less these days, but I suppose that’s satisfactory enough. Thanks.
My only regret is that the parade name wasn’t changed earlier. It’s only been the last couple of years that Inhofe hasn’t shown up. I hope his kids and grandkids hate him for ruining the HOLIDAYS for them.
Here is the news channel site. You can see from the comments section how the grandstanding plays out with our [del]morons[/del] populace. The same group that through ballot initiatives expressed the state’s anti, -muslim, -foreigner, -immigrant, -education, -obama attitudes. [various pit, election, GD threads also].
[URL=“http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=13591934”][SIZE=3]http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=13591934]Inhofe Parade Boycott
Asshole pilot.
Asshat Climate Change denier.
I should start a Stupid Oklahoman Idea of the Day pit thread.
Can’t wait to retirement and departure day.
Why is it that Catholicism gets bashed so fervently on these boards by the Doper atheists? I’d wager that if I did a search of threads that dealt with knocking down religion, Catholicism would far outnumber any other faith. Why not hate on all of them? Where is the outcry against:
Islam: 1.5 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha’i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
If any of the aforementioned faiths decided to have a spiritual parade would you break out the pitchforks and have them change the name of their holiday?
And another question: do any of the atheists on this board celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day or Valentines Day? You do realize that both of those holidays are based on members of the Catholic clergy, right?
Tell you what, while I’m celebrating my faith this season have another humdrum day and take a break from the Catholic bashing.
The Juche parades are a bit scary - I wouldn’t be sorry if they went away.
I’ll take “Missing The Point” for 1000, Alex.
They’re hiding in your mailbox… waiting for the inevitable pounce!
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Nobody cares if Christians have a “Christmas parade.” Nobody has demanded they they change the word. If a municipality was to have a publicly funded partade in the name of one of those other religions, conservative Christians would have embolisms. They think the government should only publicly fund and endorse Christianitym and that if the government does not publicly fund and endorse Christianity, then that amounts to persecution of Christians.
Sure I celebrate them. I also celebrate Christmas and Easter. What does private celebration have to do with objecting to state endorsement, and how does a lack of state endorsment amount to a persecution of Catholics?
What Catholic bashing?
Who the fuck was bashing Catholicism? Nobody even mentioned in this thread until you did. We were talking about James Inhofe, who is a devout numbskull and a Presbyterian. There was some complaining about Christians who depict themselves as a persecuted majority, which Inhofe was doing. I find that crap very annoying myself.
Ooookkkkk…
Since the OP didn’t contain a link to the original article I have to take it on FAITH that the following quote is accurate:
Jim Inhofe is upset that the Tulsa Christmas parade has been changed to the Holiday Parade. Check.
The majority of responses to the OP celebrate that he upset and wonder why Inhofe is getting his knickers in a twist. Check.
A Catholic holiday is under assault on these boards AGAIN, for the umpteenth time. Check.
A poster wonders why other faiths aren’t nearly as denigrated as Catholicism and would like to know why. Check.
Where am I missing the point?
Darth Hamsandwich, you do know that not all Christians are Catholics, right?
Christmas isn’t a Catholic holiday, dipshit. It’s a Christian holiday. If you can’t tell the difference between Catholicism and Christianity, you should stop posting in threads about religion until you’ve passed ninth grade social studies.
And I’m sure the esteemed beatified Pat and Val were all about green beer and chocolates in heart shaped boxes too. Just as Jesus surely dressed up in a red suit and put an evergreen in his living room.
Christmas is a secular holiday whether you like it or not. If you’re that upset about it, I suggest you lobby to have all references to Santa, Rudolph, Frosty and the elves stricken from the season as well.
Christmas trees don’t have any innate religious association either. They are used by Christians, but they have zero to do with any religious aspect of the holiday. Christians adopted the practice from pagans. In my opinion, it’s fine if Christians want to use pagan symbols to decorate their parties, but they don’t have a right to demand that the government call those symbols “Christian” when they aren’t.
You’re the first one to mention the Catholics.
Currently tending Atheist/Agnostic, I was raised Catholic in the Bible Belt. I guaran-damn-tee you that 99% of the “War Against Christmas” crowd are Jack-Chick-Reading, Catholic-Hating, Bible-Thumping Fundamentalists. In fact, their direct spiritual ancestors are the dour Puritans of New England–who refused to celebrate Christmas because they saw the Pagan roots of the “Popish” holiday.
Yup, missing the point…
(Unless you a member of The Catholic League.)
You can’t be serious.
- Christmas is not just a “Catholic” holiday or even just a Christian holiday.
- No one has attacked it.
Sure they do - they have as much right to demand such as you have to demand that the government not do such. Considering that “Christmas tree” is a term in common use and that the majority of the country is Christian, they may have more pull with a legislator than you do in this case.
There is no establishment issue with the term “Christmas tree” whether you use it, a department store uses it, or a school does. That seems to be fairly well settled law.
Not all of them. We even have one or two on this very board. ![]()
Okay, the Catholic thing is too funny, but you’ve already been jumped for that, so I’ll skip it. Two things:
1: An inclusive celebration should have an inclusive name.
2: Most people in this thread other than the standard extremists aren’t necessarily celebrating that there has been another successful attack on Christianity (heehee, Catholicism? Seriously?), but rather that Inhofe is being such a twit about it. It’s right there in the piece you quoted:
An inclusive celebration recognizes Christmas AND Chanukah AND New Years AND whatever other winter holidays someone sees fit to celebrate. It’s ludicrous that “recognizing other faiths” should equal “being ignored”.
They may not be tied inherently to the original meaning of Christmas, but they are certainly a specific symbol of Christmas. I wouldn’t call latkes holiday potatoes either.