Wow. In reading the entirety of this thread, I guess I should have anticipated the general negative reactions to my postings, but I didn’t.
I’ve read many threads over the years from members who’ve lost their jobs, many of whom seem highly qualified for the positions they held. I’ve always felt badly when reading such posts, so now that I am in a position to do more than feel badly, I consider it an opportunity to not only fill a need at my company, but to offer opportunities to members who find themselves under- or unemployed.
I am not looking to profit personally in any way by using this board to advertise my job openings. However, I do understand the spam perspective expressed here, even if I don’t necessarily agree with it. Perhaps, instead of 3 separate threads, 1 thread containing all three opportunities would have been less objectionable. I can see that.
I apologize if I have offended anyone with my job postings on this board. It was truly not my intent.
I think that keeping it in The Market Place would have been fine, but I am not up in arms about it being in MPSIMS either.
What is the justification for allowing double posting on two different forums within the message boards? That is usually frowned upon and stopped.
I think Oakminster hit the nail on the head when he said that it is a tacit admission that the Marketplace is a dead forum that nobody reads (I probably open it once a month or so if that, and I’m a very, very active Doper). What other reason is there for allowing the same exact duplicate posts on two different forums? It doesn’t seem right to me.
That being said, on a scale of 1-10, this ranks about a 1.2 on my “outrage of the day on the SDMB” scale.
Agreed. I think the problem with The Marketplace is it gets so few views. Anymore I look in there maybe twice a year. Someone needing a job may not feel like seeing what all’s for sale over the Internet in that forum.
But I don’t think that forum should be done away with. It does serve a purpose regardless of how few views it gets. It’s just I can see where this particular job opening would be better served by getting to a wider audience.
Not to minimize, in any way, the objections expressed here to my postings, or the very concept of allowing job postings on the SDMB, but I thought I would add that I have already received a number of inquiries and resumes since last night.
My point is there does seem to be an appreciation by some members. Perhaps it is an issue of execution.
This situation reminds me of something that happened to me last December. Some fat asshole broke into my house and left boxes lying all over the place while I was sleeping. The next morning it was like I could barely move for all the damn packages. How did he get in, you ask? It turns out the god damn chimney sweep left the flue cap off and this guy climbed in through the fireplace. Can you believe that? Of course I complained to the chimney sweep. The nerve of that guy. All he could say was that I should look inside the boxes to see if there was anything I might want inside. As if! I burned every last one of them. Now I sleep with a Luger under under my pillow. If that fat son of a bitch tries it again, I’ll just pop him one and that will be the end of that.
do not let the more vocal posters colour your read on the situation. i mean, comparing it to a break in? i’ll add another positive vote that it’s a nice thing to see job offers on the board.
the only way i could see how it might be labelled as spam is the multiple cross post, the use of CAPS and the odd designation of the job itself.
I think you were whooshed. It seemed to me that bibliophage was comparing the complainers to someone complaining about Santa Claus leaving presents on Christmas Eve.
I don’t know. I admit that it raised red flags in my brain. Seeing somebody post a “Work from home job opportunity!” thread on a message board, just shouts out “scam” to me. And while I’m sure it’s not a scam, it’s still setting off a bunch of flags for me. Sort of, if it’s really a good job, why are you advertising for it on an internet message board? (and I understand the reasons you’ve given, but still. . .)
It’s not that I’m too dumb to work Monster. It’s that I don’t have a lot of time to sort through all the offers to sell insurance and work-at-home spam to get to the legit stuff.
That said, I agree with the poster upthread who suggested that all of the jobs should have been in one thread. And maybe the mods can start a subforum in the Marketplace called “Help Wanted” where Dopers with jobs and who are looking for jobs can get together.
Yes, which we told him to do because we figured he’d get the most traffic there. We never imagined anyone would find this objectionable.
There’s Dopers that could use the work. And Onomatapeia could use someone doing the work. To put the two together, this is not a bad thing.
We allow lots of other things that benefit others, sometimes even people that don’t know this board or this site. You’re not obligated to participate in any of it, or even to read it.
“Don’t like it? GTFO.”
That’s not really a great strategy for attracting and keeping users, much less encouraging them to become paid members.
I don’t know how many spam reports the admins got- but I suspect it’s several per thread.
What does that tell you about your user base that you didn’t already know? That’s the question site admins should be asking.
Instead of repeating how baffled you are, try to understand the issue.
Commercial offers belong in the Marketplace.
Putting them elsewhere to attract traffic wouldn’t be allowed if it was any other Marketplace post, would it?
Especially multiple threads? No way, those threads would get locked ot moved with a quickness.
Looking at this thread, there seem to be about seven or eight posters who have expressed significant objections or concerns on the issue. There have been more, about a dozen or so, who say they don’t object or that it’s a minor issue (or might become one if there were too many such threads). (Some have posted without expressing a clear opinion either way.) Meanwhile the three job threads have had between 420 and 760 views each.
What this tells me about the userbase is that they don’t really see this as a significant issue.
So the theory is that Onomatopoeia has been a member here since 2005 planning, and plotting patiently to launch his great Power Point Creator Job Available scam for this long, to finally set it into motion seven years later ?
I don’t see the big deal, but when I saw the post I did think to myself : Oh jeezus, some people are going to have a problem with this. Helping other dopers find work.
