Sounds fine, did you expect a different answer?
Actually, yeah. Usually when I suggest that in other social media, the topic gets switched to emails or Obama.
Thanks for agreeing though.
When do you think everyone talking about Biden will be clamoring to investigate the 25 or so sexual assault accusations against President Trump?
The difference being their respective stances on the #metoo movement.
I personally stand how I stated, investigate any claim and judge based upon guilt, not some media trial.
When this becomes problematic is when those who only excoriate the opponent but refuse to when it happens to their guy. (See this thread for a whole lot of that)
So you actually don’t care about the investigations (aside from the rare criminal investigations) into sexual assault allegations, just about pointing out supposed hypocrisy among liberals (and only liberals, apparently)?
I guess everyone’s gotta have a hobby…
Somehow you missed my middle sentence.
“I personally stand how I stated, investigate any claim and judge based upon guilt, not some media trial.”
But I understand, my post was a whole 3 sentences.
Pointing out the liberal hypocrisy is at best a third rate hobby(like a 25 piece puzzle). Far too easy.
Do you consider this stance problematic when it is taken by Trump supporters? Or only those who support Biden?
You missed my edit.
You’ve spent an awful lot of effort at trying (and failing, IMO) at this “third rate hobby”. Maybe try a new one? May I suggest pointing out conservatives who ignore sexual assault and rape by conservatives (and especially by Trump)? Much easier, and a whole lot of fun!
Somehow you missed my middle sentence.
“I personally stand how I stated, investigate any claim and judge based upon guilt, not some media trial.”
But I understand, my post was a whole 3 sentences.
Pointing out the liberal hypocrisy is at best a third rate hobby(like a 25 piece puzzle). Far too easy.
That’s an amusingly late duplicate!
No iiandyiii, I don’t particularly care about heresy, I care about proof. And so should you all.
I have already answered as to Trump, the other guys et al. You just don’t want to see it.
And yeah, for some reason this board only has trouble loading, edits and responses take forever and I end up having to reload the whole page.
I care about fighting sexual assault and rape, and fighting for the decent treatment of women (including women who accuse powerful men of sexual assault or rape). So far we treat those powerful men extremely well – very few of them actually suffer anything serious for their misdeeds. I’m not just talking about criminal prosecution – a just and decent society wouldn’t allow an admitted sexual abuser to be in any political office, much less President. The Democratic party is pretty bad at this – up until the last few years, my party was an F on sexual assault and treatment of women, just like the Republicans. They’ve improved a bit, but only a little bit – maybe now they get a D+ at best. But the Republicans have somehow gotten even worse – if before Trump they were an F (50 out of 100) now they’re an F (20 out of 100).
That’s where our society is – and with respect to politics, we have two parties who largely don’t treat women properly, but one is trending in the right direction and one is trending in the wrong direction.
But there’s almost never going to be proof. Even the cases against Cosby and Weinstein were, (I think? could be wrong here) decided based on overwhelming weight of testimony, not smoking gun proof. What proof could there be?
So instead we’re left to do the best we can based on credibility of he-said she-said, circumstantial evidence, patterns of behavior, credibility of accusers, and a myriad of other things. And yes, it’s 100% the case that people are not perfectly objective. If your goal in life is to find cases where liberals don’t apply 100% the exactly same standards when accusations come out against liberals as they do when accusations come out against conservatives, that’s both incredibly easy (because people aren’t perfectly objective) and also totally meaningless (because people don’t claim to be perfectly objective, so what do you think you’re accomplishing, but also because no two situations are ever really exactly enough the same that you can really fully make the point you think you’re making anyhow).
Can you find a quote from some genuine leader of the liberal moment (Obama? Jon Stewart?) back during the Kavanaugh hearings which says “any accusation against anyone is 100% disqualifying period”? If so, well, I guess that’s a standard that is not being followed wrt Biden. If not, then, fundamentally, what the fuck is your point?
I’m pretty sure the point is “Some actresses and some people on Twitter are hypocrites, therefore all liberals everywhere are hypocrites”
It’s pretty much the same as almost every political argument. People can post hundreds of wrong things actual Republican/conservative members of government do, and someone posts a tweet from some liberal moron and says “See! Both parties are the same!” :rolleyes:
Investigation is good, and it has been investigated. Investigations have shown:
There is no place in that route where that attack could have occured.
That she changed her story after Biden was the presumptive nominee.
That she has a history of being a liar. And she needs money.
That the GOP has a proven history of bribing women to lie for political reasons.
That her story matches almost word for word a paragraph self-published novel her Father wrote.
That every other woman who worked for Biden has said Joe would never do anything like that.
That Biden does have a history of hugging etc, without checking first to see if wanted.
That her lawyers have worked for the GOP and Kremlin. *
That there is some verification she made a complaint about harassment timely, but no mention of forcible rape.
That she only worked for Biden a short time, and had unsatisfactory performance.
That her story about being asked to serve drinks has been debunked.
That she was a diehard Sanders supporter and has a sexual fantasy about Putin.
That Biden categorically denies the assault happened.
- *Her main attorney is Douglas Wigdor, a supporter of President Trump — he donated $55,000 to Trump’s 2016 campaign — who has also represented women in sexual assault cases against Harvey Weinstein and Fox News hosts. Wigdor told AP his firm is currently representing Reade without charge, and the firm denied any political motivation.
Reade’s other new lawyer is William Moran, who “previously wrote and edited for Sputnik, a news agency founded and supported by the Russian state-owned media company Rossiya Segodnya,” AP reports. As Reade noted in her interview with Megyn Kelly, skeptics of her allegation sometimes bring up her recent, now-deleted quasi-erotic writings praising Russian President Vladimir Putin to suggest she’s “a Russian agent.” *
Cosby and Weinstein were convicted of a criminal offense. So Proof!
Kavanaugh and now Biden = no proof! No proof, no foul! Carry on
That is and always has been my point.
So, your point is without proof, there are no criminal offense convictions?
It sounds contradictory to other posts you have made.
Post 126, 128, 140, and especially 143* “It’s a good case for landlord information to be confidential.”*
I think you may have me confused with another poster.
I do, sorry, my bad. :smack::o
They’re not liberals, just Democrats.