No worries 
I get that you really don’t want to believe her and that you’d still vote for Biden even if you did believe her (against Biden’s advice). But it looks really bad to pile up little circumstantial evidence to try to prove she didn’t do it. It looks Republican. Yes, it looks that bad.
I can’t believe a Democrat leaning person would use the words of landlords or think its wrong to lie to richer people to get their money.
Don’t use the landlord stuff or Biden’s denial for a start - we know Biden is either senile or just full of shit when it comes to topics he chooses to lie or is confused about.
And Biden’s team worked to keep Harvey Weinstein out of jail - the smears against Reade look very suspicious.
Also, who knows, Reade’s claims have all kinds of reasons to doubt.
You may be mixing up Democrats with Maoists.
Your politics is so confusing with all your squabbling factions these days.
Wow! That animal shelter is going after Tara on Twitter big time!
‘Go change your panties now!’
Lawyers fear that Reade misrepresented herself as an expert in legal cases where people went to prison and are potentially seeking to reopen cases.
In addition to lying about her degree, she apparently misrepresented her role while describing her work for Biden:
Agreed, looks like the Weinstein tacitcs might work on her. Without Hollywood money and power she will be easily crushed.
And truth shall lie fallen, in a forest, unknown.
My point is without enough VALID proof, there are no criminal charges …
But it has been shown that there are lots of people willing to utilize public opinion as their hammer (and a lot of people on this board agree!), right up until it’s their guy.
Poetic, but meaningless. Everyone could treat her as a saint and it would still be a “She said, he said” debate without any actual evidence.
With the lack of actual evidence, credibility matters. You can forever say “Yeah but he still coulda done it” as we learn more and more about her history as a serial grifter and the accumulating flaws in her account but, at some point, her words simply have no weight in truth.
Agreed, as I agreed with the same in the flimsy Kavanaugh hearing.
It has also been shown that a lot of people don’t care if their guy has 25 or more sexual assault accusations as long as they get to attempt to point out hypocrisy from a few people who don’t matter.
Except, it’s you and I talking right? And I already agreed that if proof was found for that other guy with 25 or more accusations, then he should be dismissed as well.
Are you saying that it needs to be any different for Biden?
Because if it’s ok for one, then it better be ok for the other.
Great! Now all you need to do is call out Republicans/conservatives for their hypocrisy and you’ll avoid the hypocrisy charge yourself.
Hopefully this episode has reinforced to everyone that serious and thorough investigations are always positive and should always be encouraged for allegations of sexual assault and rape.
I know, right? It’s one endless brawl between the Democrats who think it’s OK to lie to richer people to take their money and those who insist it’s mandatory.
Looks like the truth is working on her. She misrepresented her credentials as an expert witness, raising the possibility that she wrongly helped convict people.
What does that even mean? I mean, I’m a landlord, why would I think that owning a property and allowing someone to rent a part of it would make one less trustworthy?
And lying to rich people to get their money is called scamming or conning, and it is wrong to do.
I have no idea why or how you would get these completely counterfactual impressions.
Do you distrust anyone who owns property? Do you scam rich people?
We know this, eh?
Cite, please
Yeah, the fact that she is proven to have committed perjury, misrepresenting herself, her credentials, her education, and her experience while giving sworn testimony in a court should either destroy her credibility or qualify her for the Supreme Court.
Yeah, the truth fell when she started lying.
There could be no criminal charges either way.
This is about our choices, a preponderance of evidence at best. There will never be proof, as there really is almost never proof of anything.
What has been shown is a consistent and rational approach to allegations of sexual abuse or harassment, and that is to take such charges seriously and investigate them to the best of our ability. That is what we ask when it is your guy, that is what we ask when it is our guy.
This really isn’t that complicated. Do you think that you could articulate what it is that seems to be confusing you on this?
I doubt it has done so for everyone.
It would make sense that those who thought that #believewomen meant that we should always believe all women no matter the circumstances, as it was accused at the time, now would see a more rational and nuanced approach, the approach that we ask them to take, and learn from it.
However, since it conflicts with their accusation, they will not change the accusation, but rather, since we are not acting in the way that they insist that we act, they call it hypocrisy.
There may be a bit to be learned, but most of us already know it, and most of those who don’t are resistant to learning anything that would interfere with their biases.
You realize of course, that I refer to people in this very thread … Not random Democrats.
Should I go back through this thread and copy and paste all those who replied with “I’m going to vote for him anyway, even if he did it”
In my recollection, there were quite a few.
Those are the people I was talking to. If you are not one of them who would vote for Biden regardless the situation, then goodie